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Oh a lake. That sounds SOO good.
Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:25am
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I live on the shore of a lake. A damn DRY lake. Searles Dry Lake in the middle of the desert. The lake once had 600' of water in it. Today's temp here will be 126F. Oh how nice it would be to throw myself into the waters of a cool lake!

  • The nasty habit of littering, we find plenty of takeaway — Διός, Tue Jul 10 6:36pm
    wrappers and drinking cans from Take Away fast food suppliers within walking distance of a group of those venues. I think that the Take Away fast food suppliers should be made to cleanup that mess.... more
    • Thanks for all the replies not many got to the real heart of — Διός, Wed Jul 11 11:02pm
      the problem. If I can see where the wrapper came from it starts to get far more complicated. Because take Mc Donald’s why does it advertise on its packages, the buyer knows where he bought it he... more
      • Maybe a 2 cent charge would help. — Ken C, Thu Jul 12 10:29am
        Then there could be recycling centers that pay 2 cents for each of those wrappers that people bring in. If there is a lot of that litter, then 2 cents would be enough incentive for some people to... more
        • Nah it has to be a higher price to be a success. — Διός, Thu Jul 12 11:36pm
          It also if some of the wrappers are dumped on the roads and streets is a great incentive for others like children to pick up the rubbish and collect the money. And the authorities shall be setting up ... more
        • Nah it has to be a higher price to be a — Διός, Thu Jul 12 11:30pm
          success. It also if some of the wrappers are dumped on the roads and streets is a great incentive for others like children to pick up the rubbish and collect the money. And the authorities shall be... more
      • So you think a ten dollar deposit — Sprout, Thu Jul 12 9:25am
        on a wrapper for a one dollar product is a REASONABLE course of action? Get help. Why do they advertise on wrappers? Are you really that stupid that you don't know? So that OTHER PEOPLE who SEE the... more
        • So you think people are so stupid that they don't know — Διός, Thu Jul 12 11:46pm
          where to get their takeaway. I serious doubt that you have no problem. Yes whatever money is involved has to be high enough to make it work. And silly you are complaining for WHAT, do you like the... more
          • So, by looking at a piece of chicken — Sprout, Fri Jul 13 6:12am
            you know where it was prepared? You can tell by looking at meat and bread where it was prepared? Not food you see ON the wrapper silly. The food ITSELF that someone is consuming. The wrapper readily... more
    • I think.. — B, Wed Jul 11 3:41pm
      ... that the packaging for these foods and drinks needs to be biodegradable. Don’t we (not sure) already have biodegradable plastic? I don’t think that it should be the responsibly of the sellers to... more
    • Did the store, or an employee of the store throw the — Sprout, Wed Jul 11 12:02pm
      trash on the ground? I would say most likely not... It is the individual customer who choose to throw the wrappers or containers on the ground. Of course it is EASIER to simply try and blame the... more
    • We have an even bigger problem — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 10:16am
      I live in a lake town and you should see all the garbage left behind by visitors, especially after holiday weekends. The city even supplies trash bags. It is still being argued as to who is... more
      • We say a lot of that when we camped years ago on a lake. — Διός, Wed Jul 11 11:21pm
        We use to go there for the kids and for the water skying as a camping spot it was ideal for that and never very busy. But what we saw was that it was the local louts that use to come after work to... more
      • I agree — B, Wed Jul 11 3:49pm
        I think that inmates should be forced to do community work, but since it's against the law maybe they should offer some kind of incentive to inmates for work done like a day off your sentence for... more
        • We have inmate workers in AZ — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 4:43pm
          so it's not against the law, though I don't know if the city or the BLM (which oversees most of the lake) can hire them. Also, from what I understand, they are all non-violent offenders, mostly DUI... more
      • There MAY be laws in place that limit — Sprout, Wed Jul 11 12:05pm
        what inmates can be required to do. There may also be laws limiting what community service can entail. I don't know. In addition, depending on the size of the problem and the size of the community... more
      • Oh a lake. That sounds SOO good. — Tinfoil, Wed Jul 11 10:25am
        • We have a problem this year... — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 10:46am
          the shores are contaminated with "swimmer's itch," which is actually a parasite that bores into the skin. Ugh! I'm sticking with my backyard pool. It's just big enough for me to float around on my... more
          • I live in a 4th floor apartment overlooking a small lake. — SES, Wed Jul 11 11:25am
            From way up on the 4th floor, from my deck, the lake looks very nice, pristine, green grass, geese and little duckies paddling around, even a couple of white swans. If I go down to ground level?... more
            • That's about how it is here — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 11:30am
              when my kids were younger I would take them down to the beach and while the water was REALLY warm, there would be big globs of algae floating around. The further you went out in the water, there... more
              • When OUR kids were little... — SES, Wed Jul 11 11:40am
                ...from, say, 1992 through 2006, our summer vacation every year would be to a Virginia State park, where we'd get a cabin for a week. Very nice beaches, very nice lakes, with very nice swimming... more
          • Shoot the ducks. — PureStevil, Wed Jul 11 10:59am
            The ducks (cute as they are) are often carriers of the parasite and they poop it into your lake.
            • Interesting! — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 11:01am
              they didn't mention THAT in the newspaper. Makes sense though.
              • Maybe net them and feed them up first... — Sprout, Wed Jul 11 12:14pm
                Duck is pretty good eating... I read an article that made me chuckle about a town somewhere complaining about a wild turkey problem... Aparently they have so many wild turkeys around that they have... more
                • Duck a l'Orange — PureStevil, Thu Jul 12 5:11am
                  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Duck-a-lOrange-233535 Heh, I used to see a group of wild turkeys on my old bike commute. Some days they looked pretty tasty.
                  • I do an organge glazed duck from time to time... — Sprout, Thu Jul 12 7:56am
                    The glaze is a mixture of frozen orange juice concentrate and honey... Very good... I know the fancy chefs always say roast it on a bed of vegetables to absorb the grease. I don't like htat because... more
    • People who don't like seeing litter along the roads... — SES, Wed Jul 11 6:44am
      ...should volunteer for roadside cleanup. That's what WE did. Others would apparently expect the government to solve their problems for them.
      • I don't think gov't has done that for a while — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 8:39am
        hereabouts, it's done either by prisoners or kids/people as part of their community service sentence for petty offenses. Sometimes I will see an "adopt a highway" sign listing this or that... more
        • We "adopted" a mile-long stretch of road... — SES, Wed Jul 11 8:43am
          ...near our house. Back before it was improved by the State we'd collect 8 or 9 bags of trash. Now the road is wide with shoulders and the people who live along it keep the grass cut and the trash... more
          • No you're so wrong AGAIN. — Διός, Thu Jul 12 12:43am
            Shall old people or others that can't cleanup the mess of others JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT? And you claim to be and taught person, shame on you for behaving so daft. There are real solutions out... more
            • Face reality. — SES, Fri Jul 13 12:35pm
              You'll NEVER be able to prevent someone from driving along a quiet back road at 1 AM and tossing a bag of trash from the local Fast Food restaurant out the window. What are you going to do? Pick up... more
          • Maybe we need both. — Ken C, Wed Jul 11 9:45am
            The police should enforce litter laws, and the people should take care of their neighborhoods and pick up the trash.
            • Next to impossible. — SES, Wed Jul 11 10:37am
              It's next to impossible for a Police Officer to catch someone actually in the act of throwing trash out of the window of their car.
              • Then how do they catch other law breakers? — Ken C, Wed Jul 11 11:27am
                Where I live there are signs that say "$1,000 fine for littering". Maybe the signs help more than the occasional tickets do.
                • Simple statistics.... — Sprout, Wed Jul 11 12:10pm
                  How often do you see a driver do something stupid around you? Probably several times a day. I know when I see a driver cut someone off, or otherwise put everyone else at risk, part of me thinks, "Man ... more
                  • The cops around here... — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 1:38pm
                    sit in their squad cars outside the bars. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. I can't believe ANYONE who has been drinking is dumb enough to drive home.
                • 99 times out of a hundred... — SES, Wed Jul 11 11:36am
                  ...the Police try to catch people who have ALREADY committed crimes. They typically don't catch people in the ACT of committing crimes. Unless the Police are really lucky, or the perp is really dumb. ... more
                  • I think it's similar to a traffic violation. — Ken C, Wed Jul 11 5:07pm
                    The police who are driving around giving people tickets for breaking traffic laws should also give tickets to people littering. I realize most litterbugs won't get caught. Litter is much smaller than ... more
                    • They already do it.... — Sprout, Thu Jul 12 5:48am
                      If an officer SEES you littering, he will stop you and cite you for it... But the simple fact is that JUST LIKE OTHER TRAFFIC CITATIONS, most of the time a cop doesn't see you. Or do you really feel... more
                    • Yep! — Διός, Thu Jul 12 12:54am
                      But there'r other ways as well and they're at the point of sale. Read my top post on it where I thanked every one. It is as simple as laying eggs so to speak. grin Διός
                    • Yep! — Διός, Thu Jul 12 12:53am
                      But there'r other ways as well and they're at the point of sale. Red my top post on it where I thanked every one. It is as simple as laying eggs so to speak. grin Διός
            • I agree — Truthteller, Wed Jul 11 10:19am
              it WOULD be nice to see a cop give a ticket for littering, especially to the ones who throw lit cigarettes out of their window. The desert is already so dry that it wouldn't take much to start a huge ... more
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