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Sprout
Some places are more liberal than others...
Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:25am
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Aurora tends to be pretty liberal.

But there is a HUGE difference in whether they "ALLOW" concealed carry and whether or not any significant percentage of the people IN that area CHOOSE to do so.

Take Washington State. They have a concealed handgun law. But there are PARTS of the state where the people tend to be more liberal and fewer folks actually do carry. And there are OTHER parts of the state where people tend to be more conservative and more folks actually do carry.



New York has a concealed carry law, but only a TINY fraction of the people there CHOOSE to go through the process to carry.

Heck, even in Texas there are only about a half a million folks with a conceealed handgun license, and a significant number of them are not carrying at any given moment. And in Texas, there are cities that are more liberal, and therefore a smaller PERCENTAGE of the people are likely to carry.

Duh.


  • James Holmes and the Aurora, Colorado shooting massacre. — Διός, Mon Jul 23 5:31am
    We keep hearing that the gun toting Americans need more weapon to stop criminals acting out there crimes. So where were those gun toting Americans heroes during that slaughter?... more
    • Story of three heros — Christopher Blackwell , Wed Jul 25 6:48pm
      I will have to go back and see if I can find the story. Three young men each pushed their girlfriends to the floor and covered each with his own body. All three of the girlfriends survived, two... more
    • Because it was a gun free zone. — BOSS, Tue Jul 24 4:46am
      and only the good guys obey the law.
      • Interesting carry in two large weapon and nobody stops you. — Διός, Wed Jul 25 5:04am
        Well how dumb is that? Sorry BOSS I don't buy it. Διός
        • You are aware that he used a fire door right? — Sprout, Wed Jul 25 5:50am
          NOT a front door where there would be a ticket taker. Nobody guards fire doors. They are locked from the outside, but are unlocked from the inside so that folks can use them to exit the building if... more
          • Thanks, yes I'm not aware of that because I didn't see that — Διός, Wed Jul 25 7:24am
            reported over here. However it is still a crazy thing to let such thing happen. And what now shall we have cross fires in the cinemas because it is now turning in to a frenzy of a gun buying bonanza. ... more
            • You don't see the big picture.... — et, Wed Jul 25 7:47am
              What makes any item a hot commodity?
            • "let" such things happen... — Sprout, Wed Jul 25 7:37am
              Who do you propose "let" him in? He let HIMSELF in. No, I'm not wringing my hands at all seeing those weapons sales. I don't stress over the little stuff. I own a significant number of firearms. None ... more
      • Then why wasn't it enforced? — greenman, Tue Jul 24 5:35pm
        SAYING an area is 'gun free' doesn't mean much if you let people with guns enter. Perhaps that's the REAL problem here?
        • Do you think a theater should reasonably be — Sprout, Wed Jul 25 5:51am
          expected to post guards at every fire exit? And to have metal detectors or pat down all visitors to ensure that no one violates their POLICY (not law) of their property being a gun free zone?
          • Sure — greenman, Wed Jul 25 5:35pm
            IF they're serious about the gun-free zone. You think they should just post a sign and forget about it?
      • U REALLY want your family wearing BODY ARMOR just because — sT, Tue Jul 24 10:03am
        NUTS like U HATE the idea of GUN LAWS?
        • Oh, sorry, I was just answering the question. — BOSS, Tue Jul 24 12:42pm
          thats all. I didn't know I had to give my opinion also. Now if the question was asked and then asked to give my opinion, then I would have done so, but just a question was asked, so I answered it.
    • lou dobbs expressedDISAPPOINTMENTthatNO1stood up to holmes; — sT, Mon Jul 23 8:34pm
      "perhaps if others had had guns"[&BALLISTIC HELMETS&ARMOREDclothing!]
    • Bored on this subject — Christopher Blackwell , Mon Jul 23 5:47pm
      Διός,, I begin to wonder what we might be missing by wasting time on this situation. I have to avoid every news channel because they are all playing the same thing. Might as well... more
      • It SHOULD be a WAKEup call for Americans to start fighting — sT, Tue Jul 24 10:15am
        back against the IDIOCY of the NRA! EVERY CON SIGNS 2 OATHS BEFORE GETTING $ TO RUN FOR OFFICE, 1 to grover norquist promising not to raise taxes NO MATTER HOW BANKRUPTED our governments get or how... more
      • What are you waiting for? Do it... — Sprout, Tue Jul 24 5:49am
        Go visit a bank, present your business plan, and start with a LOCAL news channel that presents the news as you see fit. See how it works. Why is it 'someone' who should do it? Why NOT you? I have... more
    • You have to consider the scenario. — Poppet, Mon Jul 23 8:34am
      The Aurora tragedy was a scenario in which defensive use of a firearm would have been particularly difficult. Crowded dark theater, the crowd beginning to erupt in chaos, tear gas in the room, etc... ... more
    • Advoiding being harrased by — et, Mon Jul 23 6:06am
      gun toten paid public servants? "So where were those gun toting Americans heroes during that slaughter?"... more
    • Aurora is extremely liberal... — Sprout, Mon Jul 23 5:40am
      Not many folks there willing to take responsiblity for their own personal security.
      • What about foreign countries with nuclear weapons? — Ken C, Tue Jul 24 12:14am
        If you expect folks to take responsibility for their own personal security, then should foreign countries use that same reasoning to develop and test nuclear bombs?
      • Yeah, we should ALL wear BALLISTIC helmets & armored — sT, Mon Jul 23 10:36pm
        clothing (like holmes) & carry shotguns into movie theaters! DAMN, U NUTS ARE KRAZY!
      • Typically dishonest claim — greenman, Mon Jul 23 6:24pm
        There may not be many who CHOOSE to bear arms out of concern for the prevalence of guns in our society, and gun violence. Hardly the same thing. About the only thing you "take responsibility" for is... more
      • I'm liberal and I take responsiblity for my security. — Ken C, Mon Jul 23 1:18pm
        I always wear a seatbelt in cars. I always wear helmet on bicycle rides. I've never been in any situation where a gun would have helped me. Why do some people spend so much time worrying about... more
        • The examples you gave are taking responsibility for — Sprout, Mon Jul 23 1:35pm
          your SAFETY.... not your SECURITY. There is a difference. Most folks who carry firearms don't spend any more time "worrying" about theater shootings than you spend "worrying" about a kitchen fire.... more
          • Okay, what about bike theft? — Ken C, Mon Jul 23 2:39pm
            Is that a SECURITY issue? Bicycle theft happens a lot more often than mass murders in public places (like movie theaters.) If I was going to carry a gun, it would be for protection from bicycle... more
      • How would you know — wondering, Mon Jul 23 8:55am
        how "liberal" Aurora is? Do only "liberal" people go to see Batman movies on the premiere night?
      • Is that why... — Truthteller, Mon Jul 23 7:26am
        they are allowed to conceal-carry there? LOL Sounds like something you'd say.
        • Some places are more liberal than others... — Sprout, Mon Jul 23 8:25am
          • I do not understand the — Gateway, Mon Jul 23 9:14am
            context of your use of the words liberal and conservative as it applies to gun carrying. I think of myself as socially liberal, fiscally conservative and have never carried a gun. The only time in my ... more
            • Politically, not necessarily socially... — Sprout, Mon Jul 23 11:05am
              As a general rule, POLITICAL liberals as represented by the Democrat party oppose private ownership of firearms and suggest that the solution to a threat is seeking assistance from law enforcement... more
              • Your general rule is a misconception. — Gateway, Mon Jul 23 2:18pm
                I've known many Democrats that do not oppose gun ownership. I believe you are confusing the type of gun's that Democrats are against. What they do oppose are the assault weapons and I do agree with... more
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