Every sperm is sacred? Ken C, Wed Aug 8 12:05amShould the churches try to improve the quality of our lives, or should churches try make people have as many babies as possible? I usually try to avoid criticizing religion, but I saw this news... more
God would not create a system so wasteful Christopher Blackwell , Wed Aug 8 7:54pmKen C, If he personally thought that sperm and eggs were, in and of themselves, sacred,or even precious, in my opinion. Just as he would not create so many still births if each unborn person were so... more Ooops sorry but I have wasted quite a few is that bad? :o)) Διός, Wed Aug 8 4:05pmFemale eggs are sacred also but god wasted them by the billions is god bad too. ;o)) One question I have to ask out of this, how many preachers have spilled and wasted their semen? And how many Nuns... more You are mixing up what you think Sprout, Wed Aug 8 5:43ambest benefits society overall and what best benefits the church in question. Any given social group, AS A GROUP, will place the needs/benefits of their own group over the needs/benefits of other... more
I agree that helps them to increase in size, Ken C, Wed Aug 8 7:17ambut I think their policies cause their members to have less wealth and then they will have less money to donate to the church.
It isn't just about money.... Sprout, Wed Aug 8 7:33amMoney can certainly HELP generate influence and power... But especially in a DEMOCRATIC society, numbers alone can have significant impact on influence and power as well. In addition, just because... more
- Thanks for explaining the church point of view. (nm) Ken C, Wed Aug 8 11:59am
I think some people have a hard time Sprout, Wed Aug 8 12:20pmrecognizing different motivations... Trying to see things from the other point of view can be hard. But take the Roman Catholic Church's perspective on things. Once the Church virtually ruled the... more
A couple of examples... Sprout, Wed Aug 8 1:57pmI can look at George Bush and say that I liked SOME of his positions, disagreed with others. He was NOT great at how he appeared in terms of speaking in public, but was gifted at speaking face to... more
test test, Thu Aug 16 8:37am What a crock of shit. Gateway, Wed Aug 8 8:26amThe policy of the catholic church is to out produce the number of children of other religions. Keep them horny and poor. If they do not have other forms of entertainment then they will produce more... more
Yep, very well summed up. Διός, Wed Aug 8 4:30pmIf they would spend more effort in making their flock healthier and wealthier they would actually doing what they call gods work. But that wouldn't bring in their number, it would do the opposite and ... more Reading is fundamental asshole... (nm) Sprout, Wed Aug 8 8:47am
So is UNDERSTANDING what you write. Gateway, Wed Aug 8 9:31amKen's article discusses the people affected by the conditions that the church tolerates and you endorse the policies set by the church as time honored, tested and normalized. Since the church has... more
Again, reading is fundamental... Sprout, Wed Aug 8 11:09amWhere exactly did I ENDORSE any damn thing. The part that stupid people like you have a hard time grasping is that intelligent people like myself can COMPREHEND positions that they don't necessarily... more
Oh yeah? then why did you call him an AH? Sia☺giah, Sun Sep 23 5:51pmNow you're a liar AND an AH besides... It appears you enjoy reading Gateway, Wed Aug 8 3:11pmyour own words, probably, over and over. First, you did not answer Ken's question but came out with your reasons why it is happening. Ken did not ask WHY. Secondly, your post went into how the church ... more
Ken's question was based on a limited perspective... Sprout, Thu Aug 9 5:42amFrom Ken's perspective, it is obvious that he PREFERS a church focus on having a smaller, but wealthier membership. The problem is that the perspective of an outsider simply is not relevent to the... more
There you go again. Gateway, Thu Aug 9 7:15amChanging the perspective of Ken's question from what we were discussing. You really do have a serious problem with reading comprehension. I'll try to simplify it for you. Ken was discussing families... more
Yes, Ken's question was about what a church's goals Sprout, Thu Aug 9 7:43amin some say "should" be... And IF one PRESUMES that the goals of the church SHOULD be the indivdiual welfare of its members ONLY, then you would be correct in that a smaller congregation of... more
Understand, I do not care what Gateway, Thu Aug 9 8:27amthe church does. I am not member, nor would they listen to anything I might say but I do understand there are business undertakings they must do in order to survive. Also, there are many good and... more
If you don't care, why get into the discussion? Sprout, Thu Aug 9 9:52amWhy join into the thread at all? Again it isn't just about money.... influence is crucial to such organizations.
You have to read the whole post. Gateway, Thu Aug 9 10:11amRead the last sentence. I forgot to add this part. Gateway, Thu Aug 9 7:20amThank you for giving me an example how some intellects respond when being offered a dissenting view of their opinion. I should not be surprised by the child like behavior of name calling. Going off on tangents is his main claim to fame Clawson, Wed Aug 8 3:39pmArguing for the sake of arguing, with no real content.
You are on target. Gateway, Thu Aug 9 7:23amI've had several conversation with Sprout and invariably he always moved the focus of the discussion away from my reply. I did not realize others would notice. Thanks for bringing it up. Yep, and yep again Truthteller, Wed Aug 8 8:30amthe stranglehold the RCC still has over many countries is shameful.
Any study of USA and Mexico Clawson, Wed Aug 8 3:38pm...will reveal that the illegal immigration problem is caused by Catholic-caused overbreeding in Mexico and lack of enforcement of existing USA laws, as dictated by the Catholic Church. In fact,... moreReligion and Ethics BBS