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Thanks for explaining the church point of view. (nm)
Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:59am
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  • Every sperm is sacred?Ken C, Wed Aug 8 12:05am
    Should the churches try to improve the quality of our lives, or should churches try make people have as many babies as possible? I usually try to avoid criticizing religion, but I saw this news... more
    • God would not create a system so wastefulChristopher Blackwell , Wed Aug 8 7:54pm
      Ken C, If he personally thought that sperm and eggs were, in and of themselves, sacred,or even precious, in my opinion. Just as he would not create so many still births if each unborn person were so... more
    • Female eggs are sacred also but god wasted them by the billions is god bad too. ;o)) One question I have to ask out of this, how many preachers have spilled and wasted their semen? And how many Nuns... more
    • You are mixing up what you thinkSprout, Wed Aug 8 5:43am
      best benefits society overall and what best benefits the church in question. Any given social group, AS A GROUP, will place the needs/benefits of their own group over the needs/benefits of other... more
      • but I think their policies cause their members to have less wealth and then they will have less money to donate to the church.
        • It isn't just about money....Sprout, Wed Aug 8 7:33am
          Money can certainly HELP generate influence and power... But especially in a DEMOCRATIC society, numbers alone can have significant impact on influence and power as well. In addition, just because... more
          • Thanks for explaining the church point of view. (nm) — Ken C, Wed Aug 8 11:59am
            • I think some people have a hard time Sprout, Wed Aug 8 12:20pm
              recognizing different motivations... Trying to see things from the other point of view can be hard. But take the Roman Catholic Church's perspective on things. Once the Church virtually ruled the... more
              • A couple of examples...Sprout, Wed Aug 8 1:57pm
                I can look at George Bush and say that I liked SOME of his positions, disagreed with others. He was NOT great at how he appeared in terms of speaking in public, but was gifted at speaking face to... more
                • testtest, Thu Aug 16 8:37am
          • What a crock of shit.Gateway, Wed Aug 8 8:26am
            The policy of the catholic church is to out produce the number of children of other religions. Keep them horny and poor. If they do not have other forms of entertainment then they will produce more... more
            • Yep, very well summed up.Διός, Wed Aug 8 4:30pm
              If they would spend more effort in making their flock healthier and wealthier they would actually doing what they call gods work. But that wouldn't bring in their number, it would do the opposite and ... more
            • Reading is fundamental asshole... (nm)Sprout, Wed Aug 8 8:47am
              • So is UNDERSTANDING what you write.Gateway, Wed Aug 8 9:31am
                Ken's article discusses the people affected by the conditions that the church tolerates and you endorse the policies set by the church as time honored, tested and normalized. Since the church has... more
                • Again, reading is fundamental...Sprout, Wed Aug 8 11:09am
                  Where exactly did I ENDORSE any damn thing. The part that stupid people like you have a hard time grasping is that intelligent people like myself can COMPREHEND positions that they don't necessarily... more
                  • Oh yeah? then why did you call him an AH?Sia☺giah, Sun Sep 23 5:51pm
                    Now you're a liar AND an AH besides...
                  • It appears you enjoy readingGateway, Wed Aug 8 3:11pm
                    your own words, probably, over and over. First, you did not answer Ken's question but came out with your reasons why it is happening. Ken did not ask WHY. Secondly, your post went into how the church ... more
                    • From Ken's perspective, it is obvious that he PREFERS a church focus on having a smaller, but wealthier membership. The problem is that the perspective of an outsider simply is not relevent to the... more
                      • There you go again.Gateway, Thu Aug 9 7:15am
                        Changing the perspective of Ken's question from what we were discussing. You really do have a serious problem with reading comprehension. I'll try to simplify it for you. Ken was discussing families... more
                        • in some say "should" be... And IF one PRESUMES that the goals of the church SHOULD be the indivdiual welfare of its members ONLY, then you would be correct in that a smaller congregation of... more
                        • I forgot to add this part.Gateway, Thu Aug 9 7:20am
                          Thank you for giving me an example how some intellects respond when being offered a dissenting view of their opinion. I should not be surprised by the child like behavior of name calling.
                    • Arguing for the sake of arguing, with no real content.
                      • You are on target.Gateway, Thu Aug 9 7:23am
                        I've had several conversation with Sprout and invariably he always moved the focus of the discussion away from my reply. I did not realize others would notice. Thanks for bringing it up.
            • Yep, and yep againTruthteller, Wed Aug 8 8:30am
              the stranglehold the RCC still has over many countries is shameful.
              • Any study of USA and MexicoClawson, Wed Aug 8 3:38pm
                ...will reveal that the illegal immigration problem is caused by Catholic-caused overbreeding in Mexico and lack of enforcement of existing USA laws, as dictated by the Catholic Church. In fact,... more
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