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"Admit in the guts of Christ there exist the possibility you
Fri Jan 6, 2017 7:22am

are wrong." Truth comes from the clash of conflicting opinions. I love discussion because it makes me think of things I would not think of otherwise. I learn a lot from you all because of that. I think you don't want to think of other possibilities like what I suggest. But, tell me is it better to believe in Heaven and God and miracles, no matter how remote the possibility or not? I'm not suggesting you believe for that reason but my life is far richer because of my beliefs.

Consider all the proofs I offer and what can anybody say to refute them? Nobody can discuss FDE/SDE/DBV/ADC/tl. I'm not raising those subjects again but there is NO REBUTTAL to them.

    • Usually NOT. Truth is not a matter of debate or difference of opinion. Truth comes from the systematic collection of empirical data, analysis thereof, formation of hypotheses about the data, and the... more
    • Oh, not in areas for which conclusive truth is available, but those are mostly analytic matters that can be proven true via tautological consistency. For most everything else, reality demands that... more
      • favorite subjects.
      • Good post!!Ennui, Sat Jan 7 8:35am
        "For most everything else, reality demands that one allow for the possibility of a need to revise one's beliefs on the basis of new information." I, for one, have already changed my position. In my... more
        • Thank you!Poppet, Sat Jan 7 4:01pm
          This sort of thing is what I do , basically. Okay, these days it's mostly philosophy of science, not straight-up logic or technical philosophy (or the subject area of my dissertation, which is... more
          • I tend toEnnui, Sat Jan 7 8:21pm
            guard my privacy too, so I understand. But if you ever find a way to link to your monograph, I would be very interested in reading it.
        • Hope springs eternalContrarian, Sat Jan 7 11:53am
          Please hold that thought. You just might morph towards the reality that "logic" is not necessarily the foundation of reason.
          • Sometimes IEnnui, Sat Jan 7 8:25pm
            look up at the mystery of the night sky, and wonder. It can be quite captivating. But logic is a valuable tool. :)
            • The nigh skyContrarian , Sun Jan 8 11:48am
              A few years ago I could actually observe a pristine night sky. Not anymore. But I won't belabor the truth in this reply.
          • Hope IS ETERNAL. (nm)jb, Sat Jan 7 2:23pm
            • Life is eternalContrarian, Sat Jan 7 5:01pm
              Hope is a human emotion. The spirit that creates life is eternal.
      • dy else on the bb does, but I have pretty much given up convincing anyone to investigate the reality there. I believe in miracles because they have run my life but you can't understand how incapable... more
        • We all have some physical deficit.Contrarian , Sat Jan 7 11:55am
          Big or small. So quit with the sympathy card. It's obvious you have something out of whack. No one needs the phony details. Thank you.
    • Sorry, this is for Poppet (nm)jb, Fri Jan 6 7:27am
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