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Good post!!
Sat Jan 7, 2017 8:35am

"For most everything else, reality demands that one allow for the possibility of a need to revise one's beliefs on the basis of new information."

I, for one, have already changed my position. In my youth I use to be a member of the Christian faith. Over the years my thinking and how I evaluate the evidence (or lack thereof) has slowly brought me to my current position. I oscillate, though, between atheism and agnosticism. I am not sure which one is more appropriate for someone who perceives things as I do.

The Christian God, by his very nature, can not be tested for. How do you verify through the means we have available today for something that exist outside of, and thus is not bound by, the laws of the universe?

I am aware of no miracles that *all* possibilities for all other possible causes have been thoroughly and completely eliminated. The supernatural is not something that I have ever found solid, valid evidence for. It remains a very elusive thing. My skeptical nature will not allow me to make a leap any greater than I have to on this. Take a leap I most definitely do, to take the position that I do. But belief in the supernatural is a leap too great for me with my current knowledge. I need more.

As to your last paragraph, that is one of the reasons why I now avoid certain conversations. That, and other reasons -

  • Oh, not in areas for which conclusive truth is available, but those are mostly analytic matters that can be proven true via tautological consistency. For most everything else, reality demands that... more
    • Good post!! — Ennui, Sat Jan 7 8:35am
      • Thank you!Poppet, Sat Jan 7 4:01pm
        This sort of thing is what I do , basically. Okay, these days it's mostly philosophy of science, not straight-up logic or technical philosophy (or the subject area of my dissertation, which is... more
        • I tend toEnnui, Sat Jan 7 8:21pm
          guard my privacy too, so I understand. But if you ever find a way to link to your monograph, I would be very interested in reading it.
      • Hope springs eternalContrarian, Sat Jan 7 11:53am
        Please hold that thought. You just might morph towards the reality that "logic" is not necessarily the foundation of reason.
        • Sometimes IEnnui, Sat Jan 7 8:25pm
          look up at the mystery of the night sky, and wonder. It can be quite captivating. But logic is a valuable tool. :)
          • The nigh skyContrarian , Sun Jan 8 11:48am
            A few years ago I could actually observe a pristine night sky. Not anymore. But I won't belabor the truth in this reply.
        • Hope IS ETERNAL. (nm)jb, Sat Jan 7 2:23pm
          • Life is eternalContrarian, Sat Jan 7 5:01pm
            Hope is a human emotion. The spirit that creates life is eternal.
    • dy else on the bb does, but I have pretty much given up convincing anyone to investigate the reality there. I believe in miracles because they have run my life but you can't understand how incapable... more
      • We all have some physical deficit.Contrarian , Sat Jan 7 11:55am
        Big or small. So quit with the sympathy card. It's obvious you have something out of whack. No one needs the phony details. Thank you.
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