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Fri Mar 3, 2017 5:00am
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Here is what it boiled down to. Some Democrats e-mail accounts were hacked. The gov't believes the hacking originated in Russia. Some have said it was the Russian GOV'T that did it.

The hacking revealed some negative facts about the Democratic party in general, and by membership, Hillary Clinton. There was no huge factual proof that she committed any criminal acts or anything. Much of it was 'routine' political gamesmanship practiced by both parties. Not nice, not ethical, but not illegal.

Is it POSSIBLE that the negative perception generated by the hacking created ENOUGH of a difference in votes to have swayed the election? Hard to say. Maybe even impossible to say for certain.

While some media outlets have been publishing taglines saying Russia "hacked" the election, that simply isn't actually true.

IMO the one who caused Hillary to lose, more than anyone else? Hillary herself.




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    • They are the media's scapegoatNews Junkie, Sat Mar 4 7:43am
      The media seem to be intent on doing as much damage as they can to anyone and everyone.
    • They Have Developed...Amadeus, Thu Mar 2 11:30pm
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      • ... that are available to everyone to view that show materials planted in the media by the Russians? If so, please post the links.
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        • Fair Request...Amadeus, Fri Mar 3 7:12am
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      • Looks like "fair game" to me ...Mondo Fuego™ , Fri Mar 3 5:51am
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        • I Disagree, And I Think This Is The Danger...Amadeus, Fri Mar 3 7:22am
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            • Alternative Fact.Amadeus, Mon Mar 6 6:32am
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