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Yes, beautiful...and the performance!
Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:32am

If those figures hold up, no production road car will even come close. Okay, there will be a tiny handful with higher top speed numbers (the least interesting/useful performance stat...), but those acceleration numbers are even better than those of sportbikes. I suspect the handling will be competitive with "serious" cars, too (given that the very low center-of-gravity the Tesla architecture provides is a huge advantage to start with).

I may have to reserve on...thinking very seriously about this.

  • Got an extra $50,000 laying around?PureStevil, Fri Nov 17 4:52am
    You can reserve yours now.... lol. Damn, what a beauty!
    • Looks like they are building on their strengths instead of improving their weaknesses. They are already make the quick but expensive Model S P100D. The roadster will be quicker and more expensive. I... more
      • Generally, you can't make a go of it off high end carsMondo Fuego™ , Sat Nov 18 11:16am
        BMW needs the 3/4 series to make the rest of their offerings viable. Same probably true for MB & Porsche/Audi/VW. I don't see how Lincoln makes it with Ford. I don't know about GM ... touch & go... more
      • There's enough power to overcome the weight in straight-line performance, and the naturally low center-of-gravity in the Tesla architecture will help offset the effect of weight on direction changes... more
        • I will bet you a 2010 Abbona Pressenda BaroloMondo Fuego™ , Sat Nov 18 11:27am
          that the Tesla semi is a total flop. Deal?
          • Okay, sure!Poppet, Sat Nov 18 3:00pm
            While I have some real doubts about market acceptance, if they can deliver on that promise of lower per-mile costs from the start, it'll do well. That market, particularly with the larger fleets, is... more
            • We both win either way ...Mondo Fuego™ , Sat Nov 18 6:11pm
              ... I would buy two bottles and give you one either way :) Speaking of wine, had Atlas Peak Cab tonight ... awesome! Will let you know later where we are staying ... top drawer ... you prolly already ... more
              • Thanks for the tip!Poppet, Sun Nov 19 8:26am
                Haven't tried that winemaker...I'll remedy that! A hearty recommendation back at'cha: if you can find the vintage, the 2012 Domaine Drouhin "Laurène" pinot noir is exceptional. 2012 was an epic... more
    • Yes, beautiful...and the performance! — Poppet, Fri Nov 17 11:32am
      • About the weight...PureStevil, Sat Nov 18 10:02am
        From a discussion board colleague that was at the event: "Had a chance to hang with Franz [von Holzhausen] for a few minutes. Asked him several questions which I got immediate answers to, but when I... more
      • Pretty sure these will hold up.PureStevil, Fri Nov 17 4:46pm
        From the insiders I've talked with the performance specs listed are the conservative estimates. Tesla had a problem with the early Model SP85D numbers being from a rolling start and it made too many... more
      • And from what I have seen, Sprout, Fri Nov 17 11:47am
        the torque curves of the all electrics are just something that the gas powered cars simply cannot match. IMO if they can TRULY reach that 600mile range of ordinary driving, they have broken a... more
        • $200K -$250Ka pop? Ain't exactly "competitive".Mondo Fuego™ , Fri Nov 17 10:59pm
          Now, the huckster is offering a semi truck. Yeah, right! "Hey, Cleatus, you'll just have to come pick up your freight ... I'm stuck out here in the desert with a dead battery."
          • At that performance level? Sure is.Poppet, Sat Nov 18 9:13am
            In fact, at that performance level,* it's on the cheap side. A Bugatti Chiron, Lamborghini Aventador, Hennessey Venom, Pagani Huayra, or any Koenigsegg all cost much, much more, as do the hybrid... more
            • We'll see ...Mondo Fuego™ , Sat Nov 18 11:34am
              ... "competitive" includes ability to survive ... not enough folks will go for this to make it sustainable, IMO. One may make it into Jay Leno's garage if they ever make it off the production line.... more
              • If not, then yeah...they're being delusional. But I wouldn't think any competent exec would be planning on a quarter-mil supercar to be a bit profit center for the company. That's a niche market in... more
            • No worries, you can't hear that noisePureStevil, Sat Nov 18 9:53am
              in your rear view mirror. :D For now there's emotional equating of sound and power, but that's all just waste energy anyway. Noise is just... Noise.
          • Do you not read. (nm)Sprout, Sat Nov 18 3:43am
        • My concern about that range...Poppet, Fri Nov 17 1:56pm
 that it's probably achieved (as is the insane power) via more-or-less doubling up on the battery packs. That's likely to make for a heavy car. It can overcome that weight with a... more
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