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The meaning is not that we have to give up everything, only
Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:52am
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that we have to be willing to do so if that's
why God asks of us. It's about our relationship
with and our dependence on God.

And the following quote explains (and it is
Scriptural) why it's all gibberish to non-
believers: "It is only when we get hungry
spiritually that we receive the Holy Spirit. ".

  • "god can do nothing for us if we think we are sufficient of ourselves, we have to enter into His Kingdom through the door of destitution. As long as we are rich, possessed of anything in the way of... more
    • The meaning is not that we have to give up everything, only — shadow, Wed Nov 29 11:52am
      • Now, what does THAT mean?SES, Wed Nov 29 11:58am
        "The meaning is not that we have to give up everything, only that we have to be willing to do so if that's ["what"?] God asks of us." So then for a non-believer, this paragraph is meaningless.... more
        • ....god will "do anything for you", and NOT something that god may ASK you to do before he'll do anything for you: "As long as we are rich, possessed of anything in the way of pride or independence,... more
          • Of course it doesn't.Shadow, Wed Nov 29 12:57pm
            You are not spiritually hungry. You are self satisfied, self made, proud man. You have had opportunities to inquire more about God from a sincere heartfelt need, but that is not your choice. You have ... more
            • You are not spiritually hungry. You have had opportunities to inquire more about [insert the name of any deity that has ever existed here] from a sincere heartfelt need, but that is not your choice.... more
              • Some have Spiritual experiences like NDE or listening to a preacher and are converted. God is NOT LIMITED.
              • No it is not.shadow, Wed Nov 29 1:39pm
                The other gods do not make the promises and do not deliver on them, period. No lost sleep when what you believe is what you know and experience. Once you've a real relationship with God, no one can... more
                • Of course it is.SES, Wed Nov 29 1:56pm
                  "You have had opportunities to inquire more about God from a sincere heartfelt need. You have no way of knowing what that has already cost you or what it will cost you in the future. You have no way... more
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