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SES
And also, it sure seems that this is a requirement BEFORE...
Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:00pm
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....god will "do anything for you", and NOT something that god may ASK you to do before he'll do anything for you:

"As long as we are rich, possessed of anything in
the way of pride or independence, God cannot do anything for us."

That sure SEEMS to indicate that you have to dispossess yourself BEFORE god will do anything.

Not that god would say "Look, I'll do this thing for you. But first you gotta be poor and dependent and not proud".

Makes no logical or rational sense, either way.

  • Now, what does THAT mean?SES, Wed Nov 29 11:58am
    "The meaning is not that we have to give up everything, only that we have to be willing to do so if that's ["what"?] God asks of us." So then for a non-believer, this paragraph is meaningless.... more
    • And also, it sure seems that this is a requirement BEFORE... — SES, Wed Nov 29 12:00pm
      • Of course it doesn't.Shadow, Wed Nov 29 12:57pm
        You are not spiritually hungry. You are self satisfied, self made, proud man. You have had opportunities to inquire more about God from a sincere heartfelt need, but that is not your choice. You have ... more
        • You are not spiritually hungry. You have had opportunities to inquire more about [insert the name of any deity that has ever existed here] from a sincere heartfelt need, but that is not your choice.... more
          • Some have Spiritual experiences like NDE or listening to a preacher and are converted. God is NOT LIMITED.
          • No it is not.shadow, Wed Nov 29 1:39pm
            The other gods do not make the promises and do not deliver on them, period. No lost sleep when what you believe is what you know and experience. Once you've a real relationship with God, no one can... more
            • Of course it is.SES, Wed Nov 29 1:56pm
              "You have had opportunities to inquire more about God from a sincere heartfelt need. You have no way of knowing what that has already cost you or what it will cost you in the future. You have no way... more
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