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Sprout
It is sorry that you don't grasp the very simple concept
Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:32am
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that engaging in an act that violates the law is ILLEGAL regardless of the type of penalties...

Certainly the study that you chose says that they commit fewer crimes after their initial legal violations. Apparently other studies produce different conclusions regarding their likelihood to commit crimes.

I suspect your study disregards crimes committed by ANYONE illegally in the US who works ILLEGALLY... such as identity theft or fraud in that they are using other folks identification in order to work..... But I'd bet your study doesn't count that...


  • I Don't Know Why You're Sorry, But...Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 8:05am
    ...that wasn't a claim I made, nor the point I was making. I'll clarify it for you. Once an illegal immigrant is here, they are less likely to commit further crimes than those who are native born.... more
    • It is sorry that you don't grasp the very simple concept — Sprout, Wed Feb 14 8:32am
      • Apparently? What Other Studies?Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 9:04am
        It is sorry that you don't grasp the very simple concept that engaging in an act that violates the law is ILLEGAL regardless of the type of penalties... That's simply inaccurate. Of course, I... more
        • So, in your perspective...Sprout, Wed Feb 14 9:21am
          How does someone who CANNOT work in the country LEGALLY engage in work to make a living without violating a law? At least TRY to think on it.
          • I Suspect...Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 9:53am
            ...that there are a number of arrangements they make, once they are here. I-9 falsification is a crime, so those who do that to get a job are committing a second crime. However, there is a loophole... more
            • LOL.... "arrangements"...Sprout, Wed Feb 14 11:12am
              Even if they work as an independent contractor and do not have to fill out that form it does not make their WORK anything other than ILLEGAL. Yes they bypass a REPORTING requirement, but that doesn't ... more
              • Oh Look, You Failed To Answer My Questions...Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 11:29am
                It's hard to have a conversation without a partner who participates in good faith. You know, you might be able to make a case that if an illegal immigrant gets a Coke out of a vending machine, they... more
                • Ah.... so you decide that once theySprout, Wed Feb 14 2:14pm
                  enter illegally, then every other offense related in some way to their initial offense should not be considered a crime..... Interesting... Not particularly surprising that if you use THAT math that... more
                  • Still No Response?Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 5:23pm
                    You used to be better than that, Sprout. Amadeus
                    • LOL.... Sprout, Thu Feb 15 4:41am
                      Questions so easy... Is enforcing the law beneficial to the safety and security of the community? YES... Look at what has happened in NY when they decided to ignore such 'minor' offenses... Teaching... more
                      • A Reminder...Amadeus, Thu Feb 15 8:51am
                        Is the forging of an I-9 form (or other similar means of obtaining employment by violating immigration law) something that decreases the safety of a community? Is it reasonable to assume that as we... more
                        • How many times do I have to say it...Sprout, Thu Feb 15 11:59am
                          You want us to pretend that engaging in such so called 'victimless' crimes in no way results in an overall disregarding of the law. Yes, it is reasonable to assume that they have violated immigration ... more
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