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Amadeus
I Suspect...
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:53am
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...that there are a number of arrangements they make, once they are here.

I-9 falsification is a crime, so those who do that to get a job are committing a second crime. However, there is a loophole in immigration law that skirts the I-9 issue. Undocumented immigrants who act as independent contractors.

Now, having responded to your post on topic, how about you respond to these?

Is the forging of an I-9 form (or other similar means of obtaining employment by violating immigration law) something that decreases the safety of a community?

Is it reasonable to assume that as we are attempting to compare the impact on the community of illegal immigrants vs. native born people that we would accept that illegal immigrants are, in fact, illegal immigrants and as such have violated immigration law?

Would it be pedantic to harp on the fact that they violate immigration law when that is not really relevant to the point being made?

Amadeus

  • So, in your perspective...Sprout, Wed Feb 14 9:21am
    How does someone who CANNOT work in the country LEGALLY engage in work to make a living without violating a law? At least TRY to think on it.
    • I Suspect... — Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 9:53am
      • LOL.... "arrangements"...Sprout, Wed Feb 14 11:12am
        Even if they work as an independent contractor and do not have to fill out that form it does not make their WORK anything other than ILLEGAL. Yes they bypass a REPORTING requirement, but that doesn't ... more
        • Oh Look, You Failed To Answer My Questions...Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 11:29am
          It's hard to have a conversation without a partner who participates in good faith. You know, you might be able to make a case that if an illegal immigrant gets a Coke out of a vending machine, they... more
          • Ah.... so you decide that once theySprout, Wed Feb 14 2:14pm
            enter illegally, then every other offense related in some way to their initial offense should not be considered a crime..... Interesting... Not particularly surprising that if you use THAT math that... more
            • Still No Response?Amadeus, Wed Feb 14 5:23pm
              You used to be better than that, Sprout. Amadeus
              • LOL.... Sprout, Thu Feb 15 4:41am
                Questions so easy... Is enforcing the law beneficial to the safety and security of the community? YES... Look at what has happened in NY when they decided to ignore such 'minor' offenses... Teaching... more
                • A Reminder...Amadeus, Thu Feb 15 8:51am
                  Is the forging of an I-9 form (or other similar means of obtaining employment by violating immigration law) something that decreases the safety of a community? Is it reasonable to assume that as we... more
                  • How many times do I have to say it...Sprout, Thu Feb 15 11:59am
                    You want us to pretend that engaging in such so called 'victimless' crimes in no way results in an overall disregarding of the law. Yes, it is reasonable to assume that they have violated immigration ... more
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