Kim Sargerson
re: Hermopolis Block
Fri Jul 2, 2010 18:56

Hi Jan

It is my understanding that these blocks are published in "G. Roeder, Amarna-Reliefs aus Hermopolis: Ausgrabungen der Deutschen Hermopolis-Expedition in Hermopolis 1929–1939", ed. R. Hanke, Pelizaeus-Museum zu Hildesheim, Wissenschaftliche Veröffentlichung 6 (Hildesheim 1969), but I have not seen this for myself (Block 43-VIIIC).

It shows a male child on an adult lap, and (probably) the head of another child, in the usual Amarna family scene style, and is very fragmentary. The theory is that the other child is almost certainly one of Nefertiti's daughters, and that as all other depictions of such family groups show exclusively children of Nefertiti, this male child must also be hers. It isn't a very strong argument, but it's better than the complete absence of evidence for other theories. However, it is by no means certain that, even if the above is correct, this male child is Tutankhuaten.

If you can track this block down on the above info, do please let us know your opinion.



  • Hermopolis blockJan Bailey, Thu Jul 1 02:43
    Kim said: "The Hermopolis block showing a prince among the children of Nefertiti does not identify him by name AFAIK and it has been construed as being TutankhAmun only by default. " Can you please... more
    • re: Hermopolis Block — Kim Sargerson, Fri Jul 2 18:56
      • Hermopolis block showing male childJan Bailey, Fri Jul 9 19:48
        Hi Kim I have had two independent people look at your reference: "G. Roeder, Amarna-Reliefs aus Hermopolis: Ausgrabungen der Deutschen Hermopolis-Expedition in Hermopolis 1929-1939", ed. R.... more
        • Joe some assistance pleaseKim Sargerson, Wed Jul 21 12:53
          Hi Joe Jan Bailey has questioned the source of the reference to a Hermopolis block showing a male child. I have checked my own notes and I do not find any reference to an article - I first read about ... more
          • Re: Joe some assistance pleaseJoe Baker, Thu Jul 22 07:39
            Hi Kim Apology for writing 43-VIIIC it is actually 433/VIII C. I have this information from an old post of the French Egyptologists Marc Gabolde which he sent to the original but now defunct Amarna... more
            • block 433/VIIICJan Bailey, Tue Jul 27 02:23
              Hi I now have an image of block 433/VIIIC, as well as the other images from Heliopolis. (I can send off line to you Joe) Sorry, but it would take a whole lot of imagination to make the squiggles into ... more
              • Re: block 433/VIIICJoe Baker, Thu Jul 29 07:04
                Hi Jan Thanks for the picture. Well I for one can not make much out of it. Presumably those who have done extensive work on the style of royal depictions in the Amarna pictures can make more sense... more
              • block 433/VIIICJan Bailey, Wed Jul 28 03:26
                whoops, of course I mean Hermopolis!
            • re: Joe some assistance pleaseKim Sargerson, Thu Jul 22 12:11
              Hi Joe Many thanks for the correct plate reference. I also thank you for re-posting Gabolde's thoughts on this, which (to me) make perfect sense. Although it is not explicit any where that Baketaten... more
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