Ian Onvlee
Every year is accounted for
Mon Dec 19, 2011 04:11
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Tory,

Bold Red are dated hieratic dockets on wine-jars found at Akhetaten with the title of the wine overseer.

Would you mind changing the bold red into blue or something. I don't see a difference between bold and plain in red. In fact I don't see anything in bold in the list you gave.

Regards,
Ian



  • Every year is accounted forTory, Sun Dec 18 10:38
    Bold Red are dated hieratic dockets on wine-jars found at Akhetaten with the title of the wine overseer. 1360 15 hry-k3mw 1359 16 hry-k3mw 1358 17 hry-k3mw 1357 18 hry-k3mw 1356 19 hry-k3mw 1355 20... more
    • Re: Every year is accounted forJoe Baker, Thu Dec 22 04:26
      Hi Tory When I gave the following example of your gaps - 12 year reign for Neferneferuaten (highest attested date year 3), 9 year reign for Smenkhkare (highest attested date year 1 and his only... more
      • Re: Every year is accounted forTory, Thu Dec 22 11:46
        Hi Joe He [Krauss] lists only the hry-b3ḥ official for years 13-17 of Akhenaten Amarna wine-jars per Petrie, Helck, Cerny and Fairman: ḥry-k3mw in Years 15, 16, 1, [2?], 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, ... more
        • Re: Every year is accounted forIan Onvlee, Fri Dec 23 16:09
          Hi Tory, Just analizing. If I forget for a moment the single Year 1 of Smenkhkare, which is difficult to place with any certainty anyway, I come accross the following lunar based chronology: 1376/5... more
          • Re: Every year is accounted for (correction)Ian Onvlee, Fri Dec 23 16:48
            I saw that year 17 ended up at the end of year 16, which is irritating, so I correct this here: Era Horemheb hry-k3mw hry-b'h Date BC Equation 1376 BC = 1 Akhetaten = 1 Akenkheres I (12 years) 1 1 ?... more
    • Every year is accounted for — Ian Onvlee, Mon Dec 19 04:11
      • Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Tory, Mon Dec 19 09:23
        Bold Red are dated hieratic dockets on wine-jars found at Akhetaten with the title of the wine overseer. 1360 15 hry-k3mw 1359 16 hry-k3mw 1358 17 hry-k3mw 1357 18 hry-k3mw 1356 19 hry-k3mw 1355 20... more
        • Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Ian Onvlee, Mon Dec 19 15:24
          Hi Tory, Thanks for the interesting list and chronology. But could you perhaps be more clear about the dates. I mean. Are these all stray dates, such as the years 28 and 30 probably are, or are the... more
          • Re: Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Tory, Mon Dec 19 20:14
            Hi Ian Perhaps your browser is the problem. It works fine with safari and firefox. Send me an email with a screen shot so I can see what you are seeing on your monitor. Also, if bold red doesn't... more
            • Re: Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Ian Onvlee, Mon Dec 19 21:34
              Hi Tory, with 'doesn't work' I meant, I do see these items in red, but don't see any difference between "bold" red and normal red. It is perhaps the color red that makes it difficult to distinguish... more
              • Re: Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Tory, Mon Dec 19 21:47
                Ok so ignore bold and just focus on the red. Everything in red is a wine-jar found in the city of Akhetaten with a year-date and the official title of the wine overseer at the time of the date. These ... more
                • Re: Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Ian Onvlee, Mon Dec 19 22:06
                  Hi Tory, Ah, ok. Thanks. But if they are all anonymous, how did you distinguish one from the other with the same overseer title, and how did you decide when the title changed and when it changed back ... more
                  • Re: Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Tory, Mon Dec 19 22:20
                    I would suggest you read J. Cerny's article in JEA 50 (1964). The wine overseer is an official attached to the royal court. These jars are his responsibility. Jars with the same year-date, same title ... more
                    • Re: Every Year Accounted For (attempt 2)Ian Onvlee, Sun Dec 25 15:33
                      Tory, Thanks for the reference. I'm afraid I won't be able to purchase it. You have pretty interesting stuff here. Regards, Ian
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