Marianne Luban
This is getting ridiculous
Wed Dec 21, 2011 08:43
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Tory:

"Going back to the previous example of ayin in anx eliding with /n/. I have been saying that depending on the contemporary articulation of the name Ankh-kheperu-re, which we do not know, the Egyptian form of the name might easily appear in the Akkadian literature as:

anx-xpr.w-ra < npxrwra --- ni-ip-ḫu-ru-ri-ia-a
anx-xpr.w-ra < ppxrwra --- pi-ip-ḫu-ru-ri-ia-a

In both examples ayin has been elided and the /p/ has been transposed from xpr just as in Nap-ḫurreya. The second example is exactly what happened with Nim-murreya > Im-murreya > Mim-murreya. The /n/ was lost and the labial /m/ was doubled -- Mi-im. The cuneiform script allows for several interpretations. These are mine."

This makes no sense. Whatsover. The only consonants that elide [which means are absorbed into the next consonant] are the labials and /n/ is often replaced by /m/. But /a/?
Not a chance. And "anx" is certainly not going to turn into "ni" or "pi". And /p/ doesn't become "transposed"--ever. It elides, just like /b/--and so it evidently wasn't vocalized in the term "xpr" at this time.

  • Re: anx-xprw-ra is NipḫururiasTory, Wed Dec 21 03:25
    Hi Joe In post 12394 you showed us how you get Nipḫururia from nḫ-ḫprw-r, The last stage was via The /p/ in xprw is transposed as usual. But in EA 41 addressed to Ḫururia,... more
    • This is getting ridiculous — Marianne Luban, Wed Dec 21 08:43
      • Nib > Pip is where it got ridiculousTory, Wed Dec 21 09:20
        The only consonants that elide [which means are absorbed into the next consonant] are the labials and /n/ is often replaced by /m/. But /a/? Not a chance. Ridiculous was the meaningless excerise you... more
        • Repetition Doesn't Make It SoMarianne Luban, Wed Dec 21 16:09
          Tory: "The ayin is a weak consonant and I showed plenty of examples where it falls away leaving a vowel or nothing at all. Absurd to say ayin which vanished in spoken Egyptian" It didn't vanish!... more
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