Ronald L. Hughes
You accuse? (J'cuse?, probably bad French))
Mon Apr 2, 2012 18:56
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Ian,

I was most disappointed in your last post, and I feel it was very rude and disappointing considering the respect I hold for your postings. Yes, you accuse me of saying something that is not apparent to me at least, perhaps others might see it different however.

I thought I made two posts indicating the high regard I had for them, and then you accost me with the most rude accusations and inuendo!

It is most obvious to most historians that the symbol of the "Dove" has been used for centuries as adornments for Christian arts, etc., as well as in Christian literature.

You even failed to mention my idea that a lot of "Emblems, flags, etc., that are now considered as representations of the "Eagle" could in many cases be the representations of the "Corvus", etc.!

LOL
Ron

  • God's name written 30,000 years ago?Ian Onvlee, Sat Mar 31 01:23
    Hi all Two questions: 1. Who says the first texts and myths - notably the Creation Story - could not have been written already 30,000 years ago in Southern France? 2. Was the recurring sequence of... more
    • God's name written 30,000 years ago?Ian Onvlee, Sat Mar 31 03:34
      In my opening text concerning the above question I referred to the article at http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/11/cave-painting-symbols-language-evolution in which it became clear that... more
      • Lascaux in Egypt - Part IIan Onvlee, Sat Mar 31 06:36
        Lascaux in Egypt? Sure, you'll say. First about the most recent dating of the Lascaux cave art. This is necessary, because many still think this cave dates no earlier than circa 15,000 BC, while... more
        • Horus, was it really a hawk?Ronald L. Hughes, Sun Apr 1 15:31
          Not realy wanting to get into a dating arguement, I would just suggest for you to make a case concerning the "hawk" connection. I might suggest that the real bird mentioned and drawn was not the... more
          • Horus, was it really a hawk?Ian Onvlee, Sun Apr 1 16:27
            Ronald, You are certainly right. The bird on a pole in the lowest part of Lascaux is not a hawk but another kind of bird resembling a pidgeon or dove. It is convenient to speak of a Hawk as it... more
            • Let us not be "grouse" about it!Ronald L. Hughes, Sun Apr 1 19:50
              Ian, what a wonderful reposte'" You do seem to have an answer for most everything, and thanks for your knowledge. However, if one moved the scales of history forward, and looks at similar... more
              • Let us not be "grouse" about it!Ian Onvlee, Sun Apr 1 23:36
                Hi Ronald, You say: However, if one moved the scales of history forward, and looks at similar representations of "Birds" that are today believed to represent "Eagles", then one might well have a... more
                • You accuse? (J'cuse?, probably bad French)) — Ronald L. Hughes, Mon Apr 2 18:56
                  • The Dove and the OwlIan Onvlee, Tue Apr 3 05:12
                    Dear Ronald, No offence meant. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, so I'll try again. The identification of the Lascaux bird as being probably a pidgeon or a dove has absolutely nothing to do with... more
                    • Owls and Doves!Ronald L. Hughes, Tue Apr 3 14:09
                      Dear Ian, Thanks for the reply, perhaps I sm too touchy, since my grand children refer to me as "Grumpy!" But your last post concerning both the "Dove" and the "Owl", gives an even clearer notiion of ... more
                      • Owls and Doves!Ian Onvlee, Wed Apr 4 13:44
                        Hi Ronald, But your last post concerning both the "Dove" and the "Owl", gives an even clearer notion of the relationship of the "Dove" to Jesus, and the "Owl" to Athena/Mary the Virgin, or the... more
        • Lascaux in Egypt - Part IIIan Onvlee, Sat Mar 31 06:39
          Lascaux in Egypt – Part II (I have saved the best for last) The most amazing supportive links to emerge from predynastic Egypt come from findings made in 2004 by Dirk Huyge. In El Hosh in Egypt Huyge ... more
          • Lascaux in Egypt - Part IIIIan Onvlee, Sat Mar 31 06:41
            Lascaux in Egypt - Part III As we have seen in the previous quote, the discovery of huge rocks decorated with Palaeolithic illustrations at the village of Qurta on the northern edge of the Upper... more
            • Lascaux in Egypt Ian Onvlee, Sat Apr 7 09:43
              Not a single soul interested in a decent discussion about the prehistory of Lascaux or the writings of the cave artists worldwide on this list? How much more disappointing can it get, while cave art... more
              • Lascaux in EgyptKim Sargerson, Tue Apr 10 10:11
                Hi Ian Sorry no earlier comment, but have been away... Question for you: the "connection" between Lascaux and Egypt seems very tenuous, both in terms of chronology and continuity of attestation. So:... more
                • Lascaux in EgyptIan Onvlee, Wed Apr 11 04:29
                  Hi Kim, thanks for responding. This list seems to be dead for quite a while, and I think this topic, although quite new and therefore indeed in its childhood, is worth investigating and refining. I... more
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