Tory Thorpe
Re: KAV 21-24
Thu May 17, 2012 07:33
112.198.91.34

Hi Werner

All Millard says is that Jakob-Rost checked his arrangement of the various fragments (shown on Plate 7) and that he disagreed with Millard's placement of VAT 11260B. Like Zawadzki, Millard puts this piece in the middle of col. X. The only other place it can go is the top of col. X. Note that Jakob-Rost has actually seen the fragment. Zawadzki and Millard have not.

Bel-tarsi-iluma in col. VII aligned with Nergal-ilaya in col. VI is not really possible unless you believe Nergal-nirka-da''in or Tab-belu should be omitted in col. VI.

The name Assur-taklak ends with a vertical wedge. Traces of that wedge are visible on VAT 11256, confirming that Bel-tarsi-iluma in col. VII aligns with Nergal-nirka-da''in in col. VI.

I cannot agree that col. VI omits Nergal-alik-pani or Bur-Ramman. VAT 11255 does not join to VAT 11254.

The partially preserved wedge before the "mati" (KUR) sign in Schroeder's drawing of col. VIII does agree with a writing of shakin. There are actually different ways of writing shakin in cuneiform. As for the amount of the width of column VIII, Pa-qa-ha shakin mati will be five signs yes, but "Tukulti-apil-Esarra sarru" is even more and yet it all fits in col. VIII. I don't think there is any problem here with Paqaha as a solution to the non-existent limmu "Adad-belu-KUR".

How can space on the edge of col. X possibly be available for the "Assur-gim" in the broken name "[Assur-gim]illi-tirra RA" but there not be space on the same edge for the beginning of a number like 542 or 572? That doesn't follow. Ungnad did see VAT 11260B. Zawadzki has not. So we must go with Ungnad's stated view that the number 542 will indeed fit without any problem whatsoever.

Regards Tory

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