Dear Jon, as well as others obvious from there lack of response to my earlier postings.

Above, just one part of my small missive, shows this;

"http://www.history.navy.mil/trivia/triv4-4a.htm

'Chevrons

Chevron is a French word meaning rafter or roof, which is what a chevron looks like; two straight lines meeting at an angle just as rafters do in a roof. It has been an honourable ordinarie in heraldry since at least the Twelfth Century. Ordinaries are simple straight line forms that seem to have originated in the wood or iron bars used to fasten together or strengthen portions of shields. Other ordinaries include the cross, the diagonal cross or "x," the triangle, the "y," and horizontal, vertical and diagonal lines. The chevron was a basic part of the colorful and complicated science of heraldry. It appeared on the shields and coats-of-arms of knights, barons and kings.

Chevrons were thus easily recognized symbols of honor. That might by why French soldiers started wearing cloth chevrons with the points up on their coat sleeves in 1777 as length of service and good conduct badges. Some British units also used them to show length of service."

We see above a mention that the use of these symbols "has been an honourable ordinarie in heraldry since at least the Twelfth Century." The author(s) then seem to have knowledge of the use of at least some of these symbols such as "ordinaries include the cross, the diagonal cross or "x," the triangle, the "y," and horizontal, vertical and diagonal lines." during the times we now date as 1101 CE to 1200 CE! ; This period also seems to cover the "crusader" period as well and, at least back to the times of William the Conqueror, or about 1040 CE to 1100 CE.""

So all, there is one point I would like to persue. It is this;

"We see above a mention that the use of these symbols 'has been an honourable ordinarie in heraldry since at least the Twelfth Century.'"

Thus for at least some modern chronoligists, the "twelfth century" CE, or earlier, can hold memories of such usage.

Could not the usage of these/this symbol have occured during the IIth century (CE) or earlier?

Please respond to my question or be ready for more!

But, of course if you are sure that the "lobster" theory holds all of the "water" from these times, then you do have a "small out!!!"

If any of you are able to be sure that the "Lobster currass" design is for all intents and purposes merely a small point in these "ancient times!"

That is these obvious indications, could not mean anything in the ancient times since they had not meanning then!

This is merely an argument without facts! There does exist a term for it, but in my drunken state, I cannot remember the exact term!

Perhaps one of you can supply the words that elude me at this time?

So, which can it be? Can the use of these "Chevrons" be but a reflection of ancient events or is the alternative answer, that I support, more correct?

Regards,
Ron