Marianne Luban
Re:The Amarna Period again
Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:13
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Kim wrote:


"If such a co-regency existed then one would expect to find in the Amarna correspondence copies of the same letters sent to both monarchs, especially by the superpowers, or if separate letters where sent then a comment about the health etc. of the other co-regent, or a comment about one regent seeking advise or guidance or information from the other co-regent"
I agree. Coregency must have a specific function, although we do not know what it is. It is difficult to imagine two absolute monarchs ruling the same territory. Generally it is assumed that there is only one "actor" at a time, whether it is the senior who continues or the junior who takes over. The Akhenaten coregency is different in that there would be two actors, and not only that but acting in contradictory manner. The concept of crowning a chosen heir is common to the claims of Hatshepsut and Ramesses II, but both as children with no power transfer or royal style. Conferring a prenomen, the crown, and regnal years seems to be of a different kind, and I have not been able to formulate a "nature of coregency" statement which applies in all cases."

What one can "expect to find" is subjective--not objective. The purpose of the coregency of Amenhotep III and Akhenaten should have been most obvious for a long time but never was, even after it was realized that Amenhotep III identified with the sun. The sun does not stand alone in the Egyptian religion. He is the major element in a triad or "holy trinity" with his children, Shu and Tefnut--as embodied by Akhenaten and Nefertiti. Creating a co-king in the person of a thirteen-year-old boy when one is old and ailing is not a dangerous move, but a rather wise one. Amenhotep III was not old by our current standards --probably no more than 50 when he died--but 40 was considered old in his day and even up to the 19th Century of our modern era. [I also write about American history and have ample contemporary evidence that this was true.]

When Akhenaten was about 18, he moved to his own city. The other side of the coin indicates that 18 was not considered especially young except in our era. But he did not run the nation, regardless. The seat of power was still in Thebes until his Year 8.

A very great indicator of a lengthy coregency between the father and the son is the mummy of Queen Tiye. For years there was some doubt as to whether it was she--but that has been dispelled by DNA testing once and for all. Since then, a book has appeared with the title of "Scanning the Pharaohs" by Z. Hawass and S. Saleem. The mummified body of Queen Tiye was subjected to CT-scan in Cairo. The team who did the scanning could find no reason to assign a higher age-at-death to this queen than 40-50 years. 50 is the top of the range. This means that, unless Queen Tiye was married to a young Amenhotep III at the age of nine, AND with a coregency of AT LEAST eight years, she can have died at the age of 50 during the sole reign of her son. Otherwise, one needs to make her close to 60 at death. Nine is not young when it came to arranged marriages in days gone by and, in India, legislation had to be put into place forbidding the taking of nine-year-old brides--and not that long ago. Richard II of England married Isabella of Valois when she was only seven. However, Canon Law decreed that the marriage could not be consummated until at least the age of 12, so Richard went off on a crusade--and died.

Truthfully, I am not much interested in what one "can expect to see". I suggest taking a fresh look at the existing evidence.

  • Re:The Amarna Period againKim Sargerson, Mon Aug 29 07:59
    Hi Joe Many thanks for your comments. I really only posted this because I was becoming tired of the old, old "evidence" being cited over and again without any new evidence or new reasoning to back... more
    • Re:The Amarna Period again — Marianne Luban, Mon Aug 29 10:13
    • Re:The Amarna Period againMarianne Luban, Mon Aug 29 09:24
      Kim wrote: "I really only posted this because I was becoming tired of the old, old "evidence" being cited over and again without any new evidence or new reasoning to back it." All my arguments for a... more
    • Re:The Amarna Period againJoe Baker, Mon Aug 29 08:42
      Hi Kim In less than 20 years there were full warring pharaohs at Thebes (Rudamun and later Ini, warring with the Kushites), and later, warring with each other, were Hermopolis (Nimlot) and... more
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