Marianne Luban
re: the age of kv55
Mon Sep 5, 2016 12:23
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Kim:

Just a few responses...


"It should be remembered that most of Tutankhamun's gravegoods come from a small window of time at the end of the Amarna period. There is one winejar from Amunhotep III (and no objects attesting to a coregency of Amunhotep III and Akhenaten)."

I am inclined to agree with Tory now that all coregencies are not the same in nature. Because I became convinced that there was a dual kingship of Amenhotep III and his son lasting for eight years, I have to divide that into portions. Just as Thutmose III was no longer mentioned on anything [except once at Deir el Bahari, sometime after the Year 9 Punt expedition] until Year 13-- because he was related to a "junior partner"--one cannot expect anything more from the two later co-kings, probably for the same reason. When Thutmose III became an adult, he was often shown with Hatshepsut, both cartouches visible, but Thutmose did not move away to become king over his own town.
That's what Akhenaten did--and then what real reason was there for him to be shown with Amenhotep III on anything? And yet that was only for a "brief window of time", too. Akhetaten doesn't evidence habitation by wine jar dockets until Year 6--and Amenhotep III would have died some time in Akhenaten's Year 8.

There were a number of items bearing the name of Akhenaten in the tomb of Tutankhamun, but not a single one actually spelling "Smenkhkare".

Kim:

"Magic bricks: I have been unable to find out if Tutankhamun's magic bricks actually contained his name in the texts (trying to compare them to those in KV55). Does anyone know?"

I would be surprised if his name was not there, as the formula on such bricks said they were for "the protection of the Osiris X"--and this applied to commoners, as well.

"The KV55 mummy: considerations of its age at death have clearly been influenced by belief that (a) this is Akhenaten"

What makes you so sure that no one was influenced by the belief that it was *not* Akhenaten? I feel sure that unerupted wisdom teeth swayed more than one examiner to place the age-at-death on the low side. But it now seems quite evident that unerupted wisdom teeth may have been a trait in this generation because the "Younger Lady" has them, as well--and the people in Cairo were most careful to avoid naming her as anybody--and gave her an age of up to 35 at death anyway.


"The strip of box lid 001k is not evidence that Merytaten was married to Akhenaten. She is not paired with him as great wife anywhere, and on the box lid Neferneferuaten comes between them. She is paired with Smenkhkare."

James Allen separated Neferneferuaten from Smenkhkare years ago. Smenkhkare is never styled "mry wa-n-ra" and Neferneferuaten always is [and also "mry Ax-n-itn"]. Besides, Neferneferuaten is also "effective for her husband" elsewhere and that means she was a woman. So it is Neferneferuaten on that box element and she did not need a wife. Akhenaten did--and that Great Royal Wife was now Meritaten.



  • re: the age of kv55Kim Sargerson, Mon Sep 5 07:59
    Hi Jaime, Joe I think too much is made of "erasure". There are not always political overtones to this. The calcite jar which apparently had the cartouches of Smenkhkare and Akhenaten side by side,... more
    • re: the age of kv55 — Marianne Luban, Mon Sep 5 12:23
      • re: the age of kv55Kim Sargerson, Mon Sep 5 19:05
        Hi Marianne Thank you for your comments. I wrote "(and no objects attesting to a coregency of Amunhotep III and Akhenaten)." Perhaps I could have phrased that better. What I am trying to say is that... more
        • re: the age of kv55Marianne Luban, Tue Sep 6 09:30
          I wrote: "So it is Neferneferuaten on that box element and she did not need a wife. Akhenaten did--and that Great Royal Wife was now Meritaten" Kim: "Yes it is Neferneferuaten, female pharaoh, which... more
          • re: the age of kv55Marianne Luban, Tue Sep 6 09:48
            This site gives information as to how cranial sutures are used in determining age of skeletal remains:... more
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