Marianne Luban
Pinudjem I and Masaharta
Wed Nov 30, 2016 19:30
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"C - The priests
- Ramses XI, 1064-1029
- Amenhotep, c1070-1050
- Piankh , 1050-1044
- Herihor, 1044-(995)
- Pinudjem Ib, 1019-1004
- Djedkhonsuefankh, 1004-1003
- Masaharta, 1003-995
- Menkheperre, 995-974
- Smendes B, 974-c972"


Hmmm...well...Queen Meryetamun's burial was "restored" in Year 19 of Pinudjem I, 3rd month of Peret, day 19. The linen for the re-wrapping contained the name of HP Masaharta.

  • (...) TIMELINE Numbers will probably facilitate the picture I'm suggesting for this period. I stick to the idea the dates between Years 6-25, from Pinudjem to Menkheperre, all belong to Herihor, who... more
    • Pinudjem I and Masaharta — Marianne Luban, Wed Nov 30 19:30
      • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaTory, Fri Dec 2 01:48
        An anonymous year date with the mention of a king within the very same date formula is technically not anonymous. The Egyptians were not ignorant. Shouldn't the default assumption be that the year... more
        • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaJaime O, Fri Dec 2 06:51
          Hi Tory, I appreciate your reply to this thread. "An anonymous year date with the mention of a king within the very same date formula is technically not anonymous. The Egyptians were not ignorant.... more
          • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaAnonymous, Fri Dec 2 10:04
            My question relates to the year date not the identity of the HP. I will rephrase. Unless these HPs were trying to be misunderstood they had a default assumption they expected readers of their linens, ... more
            • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaJaime O, Sat Dec 3 07:50
              Hi Tory, thank you for the reply. "My question relates to the year date not the identity of the HP." My point is this: 'Menkheperre son of King Pinudjem' is an epithet, in no way related to the date. ... more
              • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaTory, Thu Dec 8 23:13
                Jaime: "My point is this: 'Menkheperre son of king Pinudjem' is an epithet, in no way related to the date." Actually "son of X" is a patronymic not an epithet. Epithets can be earned, acquired, and... more
                • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaJaime O, Sun Dec 11 17:33
                  Hi Tory, thank you for the reply. "Actually "son of X" is a patronymic not an epithet. Epithets can be earned, acquired, and taken away. Patronymics cannot." Yes. you're right. By 'epithet' I had an... more
                  • HPAs and 21st dynasty chronologyTory, Fri Dec 16 07:13
                    Jaime: Thanks for bringing the Prada paper on tabs, mummy braces, and pendants from the Bab el-Gasus cache reproduced in Černżís notebooks to the forumís attention. Those who have had time to go ... more
                    • Re: HPAs and 21st dynasty chronologyJaime O, Fri Dec 16 18:14
                      Hi Tory, I appreciate your further comments. "Those who have had time to go through it have to be struck, as I was, over the number of items belonging to "HPA Pinudjem son of KING PSUSENNES... more
      • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaJaime O, Thu Dec 1 06:30
        Hi Marianne. I appreciate a lot your reply. "Queen Meryetamun's burial was "restored" in Year 19 of Pinudjem I, 3rd month of Peret, day 19. The linen for the re-wrapping contained the name of HP... more
        • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaMarianne Luban, Thu Dec 1 12:27
          Dodson and Hilton, "The Complete Royal Families of Ancient Egypt" [page 207] still have HP Masaharta as being a son of Pinudjem I. They also state that Masaharta was responsible for the restoration... more
          • Re: Pinudjem I and MasahartaJaime O, Thu Dec 1 15:51
            Hi Marianne, thank you for the reply. "Dodson and Hilton, "The Complete Royal Families of Ancient Egypt" [page 207] still have HP Masaharta as being a son of Pinudjem I." Because they: a) are not... more
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