Marianne Luban
re: Ramesses XII
Sun Feb 26, 2017 18:33
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FB [whoever?] wrote:

"Ian is talking about an entirely new Ramesside king from the 20th Dynasty named Usermaatre Heqawaset/Heqawese Ramesses Mereramun."

Ian who? The first post in this thread was that of Tory and he did not mention a paper. I responded to him. Regardless, why should that preclude anyone from going back in time to the 19th Dynasty and suggesting that, as long as the idea was to find yet another king called Ramesses, one could perhaps find one there?


"He makes it clear that this king is not Siptah or Ramesses II since Siptah did not use the name Ramesses in his titular"


Who is HE and why should anyone limit themselves to what HE says or doesn't say? There is clearly a king Sekhaenre Ramesses-siptah, presumably part of Dynasty 19.

Moreover, is there some reason you are unable to use your actual name in this forum?

  • Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 13:32
    Ian is talking about an entirely new Ramesside king from the 20th Dynasty named Usermaatre Heqawaset/Heqawese Ramesses Mereramun. He makes it clear that this king is not Siptah or Ramesses II since... more
    • re: Ramesses XII — Marianne Luban, Sun Feb 26 18:33
    • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 17:36
      PS: The epithet Mereramun was never used by Ramesses II or Ramesses III in their formal inscriptions. They used Meryamun. Therefore, they are eliminated as the Wadi Hammamat king. The identification... more
      • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 18:28
        Smendes who had a 26 year reign in Dynasty 21 is attested only twice in Upper Egypt at Ed-Dibabiya What is the proof Smendes reigned so long? I'm not against new rabbits in theory, but if correcting... more
        • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 19:30
          To Ms Luban, The Ian mentioned here is Ian Mladjov. He published his 2017 paper here: http://birminghamegyptology.co.uk/journal/ and you would know this if you are on EEF. Manetho gives Smendes 26... more
          • Re: Ramesses XIIMarianne Luban, Mon Feb 27 09:05
            FB wrote: "To Ms Luban, The Ian mentioned here is Ian Mladjov. He published his 2017 paper here: http://birminghamegyptology.co.uk/journal/ and you would know this if you are on EEF." Is it somehow... more
          • egyptological nonsenseTory, Mon Feb 27 00:16
            Manetho gives Smendes 26 years of reign and this is supported by the Year 25 date on the Banishment Stela since we have no evidence the Theban High Priests counted their years even when they... more
          • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 21:08
            There is no year 16 document where Pinudjem I "proclaims himself king." This is incorrect and misleading. There is a year 16 (anonymous) record when Masaharta was HPA. It says nothing about his royal ... more
            • Dear Tory, I'm afraid that this will be my last post on this Forum. This Forum is not what it was when I participated on it 11-14 years ago. Yes there is clear evidence that Pinedjem was a simple HP... more
              • I'm afraid that this will be my last post on this Forum. This Forum is not what it was when I participated on it 11-14 years ago. Yes there is clear evidence that Pinedjem was a simple HP in Year 15... more
          • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 19:48
            As an aside, if 'king' Pinedjem I in Thebes really counted his years and we know he proclaimed himself king in Year 16 of an anonymous ruler's reign (likely Smendes) then why is the Banishment stela... more
            • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 21:01
              Where does the Banishment Stele mention anyone named king Smendes? The only king named anywhere in this record is king Pinudjem, father of HPA Menkheperre. There is not the slightest recognition of... more
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