Tory
egyptological nonsense
Mon Feb 27, 2017 00:16
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Manetho gives Smendes 26 years of reign and this is supported by the Year 25 date on the Banishment Stela since we have no evidence the Theban High Priests counted their years even when they proclaimed themselves kings.

Manetho is dead wrong far more times than he is right. So what real evidence says he is not wrong about the length of Smendes' reign? Bandage 105 from the priestly cache at Deir el-Bahari records: "Year 48 of HPA Menkheperre, king's son of (PINUDJEM)."

So this means we do have evidence of Theban High Priests counting their own years. Hence the first claim is false.

Second, it is utterly ridiculous to suppose that Menkheperre counted his own years when he was only a High Priest but that his father did not count his own years after he became king. The logic is asinine.

For the Banishment Stela, the nameless year 25 has to belong either to HPA Menkheperre, or, more likely, to his father KING PINUDJEM, who is the only king mentioned in the entire document.

Tory

  • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 19:30
    To Ms Luban, The Ian mentioned here is Ian Mladjov. He published his 2017 paper here: http://birminghamegyptology.co.uk/journal/ and you would know this if you are on EEF. Manetho gives Smendes 26... more
    • Re: Ramesses XIIMarianne Luban, Mon Feb 27 09:05
      FB wrote: "To Ms Luban, The Ian mentioned here is Ian Mladjov. He published his 2017 paper here: http://birminghamegyptology.co.uk/journal/ and you would know this if you are on EEF." Is it somehow... more
    • egyptological nonsense — Tory, Mon Feb 27 00:16
    • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 21:08
      There is no year 16 document where Pinudjem I "proclaims himself king." This is incorrect and misleading. There is a year 16 (anonymous) record when Masaharta was HPA. It says nothing about his royal ... more
      • Dear Tory, I'm afraid that this will be my last post on this Forum. This Forum is not what it was when I participated on it 11-14 years ago. Yes there is clear evidence that Pinedjem was a simple HP... more
        • I'm afraid that this will be my last post on this Forum. This Forum is not what it was when I participated on it 11-14 years ago. Yes there is clear evidence that Pinedjem was a simple HP in Year 15... more
    • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 19:48
      As an aside, if 'king' Pinedjem I in Thebes really counted his years and we know he proclaimed himself king in Year 16 of an anonymous ruler's reign (likely Smendes) then why is the Banishment stela... more
      • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 21:01
        Where does the Banishment Stele mention anyone named king Smendes? The only king named anywhere in this record is king Pinudjem, father of HPA Menkheperre. There is not the slightest recognition of... more
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