Marianne Luban
Re: Ramesses XII
Mon Feb 27, 2017 09:05
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FB wrote:


"To Ms Luban,

The Ian mentioned here is Ian Mladjov. He published his 2017 paper here: http://birminghamegyptology.co.uk/journal/ and you would know this if you are on EEF."

Is it somehow mandatory to be on the EEF??

"Manetho gives Smendes 26 years of reign"

To be precise, it is Africanus who assigns 26 years to Smendes in an epitome. My research has shown me that he very likely followed Ptolemy of Mendes instead of Manetho--even though he believed his source was the latter. However, that would not be the last time the two Egyptian historians were confused. Africanus lived c. 160-240 CE, much closer to Ptolemy of Mendes than to Manetho. I discuss this in my book, "Manetho Demystified--Second Edition".


"Regards, FB. PS: I think my time will be better spent on EEF than on this Forum"

For one thing, I know you would have to use your actual name there. "FB" wouldn't cut it on so much as a single post.

  • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 19:30
    To Ms Luban, The Ian mentioned here is Ian Mladjov. He published his 2017 paper here: http://birminghamegyptology.co.uk/journal/ and you would know this if you are on EEF. Manetho gives Smendes 26... more
    • Re: Ramesses XII — Marianne Luban, Mon Feb 27 09:05
    • egyptological nonsenseTory, Mon Feb 27 00:16
      Manetho gives Smendes 26 years of reign and this is supported by the Year 25 date on the Banishment Stela since we have no evidence the Theban High Priests counted their years even when they... more
    • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 21:08
      There is no year 16 document where Pinudjem I "proclaims himself king." This is incorrect and misleading. There is a year 16 (anonymous) record when Masaharta was HPA. It says nothing about his royal ... more
      • Dear Tory, I'm afraid that this will be my last post on this Forum. This Forum is not what it was when I participated on it 11-14 years ago. Yes there is clear evidence that Pinedjem was a simple HP... more
        • I'm afraid that this will be my last post on this Forum. This Forum is not what it was when I participated on it 11-14 years ago. Yes there is clear evidence that Pinedjem was a simple HP in Year 15... more
    • Re: Ramesses XIIFB, Sun Feb 26 19:48
      As an aside, if 'king' Pinedjem I in Thebes really counted his years and we know he proclaimed himself king in Year 16 of an anonymous ruler's reign (likely Smendes) then why is the Banishment stela... more
      • Re: Ramesses XIITory, Sun Feb 26 21:01
        Where does the Banishment Stele mention anyone named king Smendes? The only king named anywhere in this record is king Pinudjem, father of HPA Menkheperre. There is not the slightest recognition of... more
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