Marianne Luban
re:Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date Pharoahs
Sat Nov 4, 2017 09:31
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Robert Killian wrote:


"So, if this calculation of a early 'synchronization' of Secular and Biblical sequential timeline could be established, we could have at least this one point in time confirmed, by mathematical certainty."

We are still obliged to use a lunar phase of Thutmose III as an anchor--as that came earlier. We can arrive *close* to Year 1 of King Merneptah by only the very lowest chronology. I once placed the reign of Merneptah in 1207 BCE in a book I wrote in 2001. Since I no longer stand behind the chronology I used in that book, I let it fall out of print. Year 1 by the HC would be 1258; MC 1233 and LC 1208. This was calculated using the following:

Amenhotep II begins reign in 1450 BCE and rules for 26 yrs.
Thutmose IV for 9
Amenhotep III for 38 [eight with Akhenaten]
Akhenaten sole reign 9 years
Interim kings for 3 years
Tutankhamun 10 years
Ay for 4
Horemheb for 14
Ramesses I for 1 year
Seti I for 10 years
Ramesses II for 68 years

Of course, not all the reigns are of certain duration. The chronologies must be 25 years apart due to the lunar phase repeating on a certain date every 25 years. As all know, I adhere to the High Chronology, which would have Amenhotep II succeeding in 1450. I do not believe in a coregency for him and his father, based on any known data.

But that doesn't cancel out that eclipse of 1207 being mentioned in the Bible. By the HC, the 20th Dynasty would be the ruling family, however.

  • Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date Pharoahs Robert Killian, Sat Nov 4 03:02
    Solar Eclipse #06607, just after 13h on 30 October 1207BC, (Julian), occurred, in biblical timeline, in 31st year of Deborah, the 3rd Judge in Israel. That SAME YEAR, Pharoah Merneptah reigned in... more
    • re:Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date Pharoahs — Marianne Luban, Sat Nov 4 09:31
      • re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date PharoahsRobert Killian, Sun Nov 5 03:06
        Perhaps it may help in our attempt to establish a correct, mathematically verifiable sequential chronology of a timeline that covers the 300 years since Sihon, King of the Amorites was slain in the... more
        • I still have not seen an explanation of how the Moon in the west over the Valley of Ajalon, and the Sun in the east over Gibeon, can constitute a Solar Eclipse? To view this event the observation... more
          • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date pharaohsMarianne Luban, Sun Nov 5 09:03
            Jon wrote: "I still have not seen an explanation of how the Moon in the west over the Valley of Ajalon, and the Sun in the east over Gibeon, can constitute a Solar Eclipse." See here. The moon is in... more
          • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date PharoahsRobert Killian, Sun Nov 5 08:45
            For years I have assumed that the celestial mechanics of a Solar eclipse requires, in every case, that our Sun is obscured as our Moon 'passes' across the face of the Sun. It seems to me, in all... more
            • I'm sure Humphreys and Waddington also understand this, yet they make no attempt to explain why these two heavenly bodies described as being in separate regions of the sky can be interpreted as an... more
              • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date PharoahsRobert Killian, Sun Nov 5 10:35
                Indeed, perhaps Humphreys and Waddington did understand the celestial mechanics of a Solar eclipse. However, I'm quite sure that they would have no idea of why a scribe/historian could divine the... more
      • re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date PharohsRobert Killian, Sat Nov 4 11:23
        In my opinion,---You were correct to place the reign of Merneptah in 1207BCE. Doing so would be, I think, in the year of the death of Amuwanda III, 2685AM, 1207BCE, and ac. Suppilluma III, and 31st... more
        • re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date PharohsMarianne Luban, Sat Nov 4 13:07
          Robert Killian: "In my opinion,---You were correct to place the reign of Merneptah in 1207BCE." No, I wasn't. Didn't you write here, just a couple of months ago, that you agreed with Joe Baker in... more
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