Marianne Luban
re: European King Tutankhaten
Tue Nov 21, 2017 22:43
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Marianne wrote:
"I think the Haplogroup of Tut was probably correctly deduced,"

Tory
"haplogroup R1b1a2 would mean his father was not Akhenaton. This was his maternal grandfather not his father. The Y-DNA is not passed to females."

Tory, the haplogroup of Tut that was figured to be R1b1a2 belonged to his y-DNA, inherited on the paternal side. It has nothing to do with females at all. So how do you figure this excludes the father from having been Akhenaten? Tut had only one grandfather and that was Amenhotep III. His parents were a full brother and sister. Don't forget that these males, AIII, KV55, TUT--all had the same blood group, too, very rare in Egypt--which is A1.

  • re: European King TutankhatenTory, Tue Nov 21 21:59
    Marianne wrote: I think the Haplogroup of Tut was probably correctly deduced, haplogroup R1b1a2 would mean his father was not Akhenaton. This was his maternal grandfather not his father. The Y-DNA is ... more
    • re: European King Tutankhaten — Marianne Luban, Tue Nov 21 22:43
      • re: European King TutankhatenTory, Tue Nov 21 22:59
        The maternal DNA, not the Y-DNA, establishes that Tut was related to the members of Akhenaton's family. But the Y-DNA of Akhenaton and Amenhotep III is not R1b1a2 so Akhenaton cannot be Tut's father. ... more
        • re: European King TutankhatenMarianne Luban, Wed Nov 22 07:51
          Tory: "The maternal DNA, not the Y-DNA, establishes that Tut was related to the members of Akhenaton's family." Well, no--it was autosomal DNA that connected Tut to the rest of his family. Autosomal... more
          • re: European King TutankhatenTory, Sat Nov 25 23:05
            R1b1a2 cannot possibly be the Y-DNA of Amenhotep IV, III, and the rest of the male line back to the Theban dynasty founder. This Y-haplogroup is virtually non-existent in Egypt and everywhere else in ... more
            • re: European King TutankhatenMarianne Luban, Tue Nov 28 15:59
              Tory: "R1b1a2 cannot possibly be the Y-DNA of Amenhotep IV, III, and the rest of the male line back to the Theban dynasty founder. This Y-haplogroup is virtually non-existent in Egypt and everywhere... more
              • re: European King TutankhatenTory, Wed Nov 29 03:17
                Tut does not just have one grandfather. Every human being as two grandfathers, a paternal and a maternal one. The autosomal DNA results make Amenhotep III the maternal grandfather of Tut, not his... more
                • re: European King TutankhatenMarianne Luban, Fri Dec 1 07:54
                  And, by the way, just go here and you'll find an entire chart of where the haplogroup in question can be found in Africa and to what degree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b
                  • re: European King TutankhatenMarianne Luban, Wed Dec 6 12:04
                    You know, though, I think the 18th Dynasty royals have some unknown story connected to their DNA and, if someone had time and the right program, they might be able to figure out what the story was. I ... more
                • re: European King TutankhatenMarianne Luban, Fri Dec 1 07:40
                  Tory: "Tut does not just have one grandfather. Every human being as two grandfathers, a paternal and a maternal one. The autosomal DNA results make Amenhotep III the maternal grandfather of Tut, not... more
          • re: European King TutankhatenRich McQuillen, Wed Nov 22 10:47
            Off-topic: I have made a claim with Tut that he appears in Greek Mythology. The son of the sun(Aten). The son of Tithonus(Tutankh). He falls off his chariot and drowns in the Nile. He's mourned by... more
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