Marianne Luban
Re: European King Tutankhaten
Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:46
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Hi, Joe. You wrote:

"My understanding is that this idea that Tutankhamun’s Y-DNA belonged to the R1b1a2 hyplogroup is based on a close-up of a blurry computer screen shot of coloured peaks seen in the 2010 Discovery Channel program “King Tut Unwrapped”. The program itself never discussed or commented on any supposed Y-DNA (and if any was recovered it has never been acknowledged by the Egyptian authorities). The Y-DNA story was put out in 2011 by IGENEA, a Swiss genealogy company, whose source is the above screen shot. Trouble is this screen shot was not from the actual real time analysis of the results but is a later re-enactment of the event for the TV program. So what is actually seen in the re-enacted screen shot could be any old DNA sample taken from somebody at some time and just cut into the documentary."

Actually, it wasn't so blurry, as I was able to copy the numbers some time ago, myself, by pausing the action of the documentary. But, yes, there's no sure way of knowing whose y-DNA it was. On the other hand, it could have been Tut's. His blood type is found in Africa:

https://aratta.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/the-origin-and-development-of-the-african-haplogroup-r1b/

"But what interest me more is your chronology and your commentary on the possible historical implications of such a (flawed and suspect) story. So now you have finally coming around to seeing Smenkhkare = Zannanza and Daḫumunzu = Neferneferuaten = Meritaten. You have long and hard opposed any such relationship or chronology. (Something I have championed ever since Marc Gabolde’s ideas became known to me)."

As much as I, also, would like to rescue poor Zannanza, I doubt he ever became king of Egypt. Had he become a pharaoh, he had time to send a message to his father confirming that--but he never did. The Hittite king had no idea what had become of Zannanza. In fact, he wrote to Egypt, demanding "What have you done with my son?" Mursili, the brother of Zannanza, seems to have discovered what became of him, as he wrote "They killed him as they led him there" and then went on to say his father declared war on Egypt due to his anger at the whole situation.

One thing as an aside, those sequins bearing the name of Smenkhkare aren't coupled with that of Merytaten, as was formerly suspected. They only say "Meryaten", an epithet of Smenkhkare, himself.

  • Re: European King TutankhatenJoe Baker, Wed Nov 22 08:07
    Hi Tory My understanding is that this idea that Tutankhamun’s Y-DNA belonged to the R1b1a2 hyplogroup is based on a close-up of a blurry computer screen shot of coloured peaks seen in the 2010... more
    • Re: European King TutankhatenTory, Sat Nov 25 23:11
      Hi Joe Yes I accept the 12-year overlapping of Amenhotep III and IV. This is not the same thing as a co-regency. Let it go. Seti I had a restart in his year-count, so we will not find year dates... more
    • Re: European King Tutankhaten — Marianne Luban, Fri Nov 24 10:46
      • Re: European King TutankhatenMarianne Luban, Fri Nov 24 20:33
        Oops--I wrote "blood type". I meant "haplogroup is found". The blood type is very rare in Egypt, according to a study done by Dr. Daoud Matta years ago,
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