Marianne Luban
Amenhotep II and His Reign
Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:42
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Robert Killian wrote in
re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date Pharoahs
Sun Nov 5, 2017 03:06


"Amenhotep II begins in the 19th year AFTER Exodus in 2448AM, 1444BC, and ENDS in the 46th year, 2494AM, 1398BC, AFTER Exodus, in the 6th year of the leadership of Joshua."

Robert Killian reckons with AM dates and now that I have some time, I'd like to point out why he can't rely on them. There are actually New Kingdom pharaohs about whose lives there is so much known that their dates can be fixed. If one follows the High Chronology [and I do] the father of Amenhotep II must come to the throne in 1504 BCE because a phase of the moon recorded in his annals mandates it. Of course, the moon phase has no actual year attached to it because the ancient Egyptians used no accrued dating system--except within the life of the sovereign of the time. Since the moon phase occurred on a particular day within 25-year increments--twenty-five years [no more and no less] lead to the Middle Chronology.

Thutmose III died after nearly 54 years on the throne. That means the heir, Amenhotep II, has to succeed in 1450 BCE by the High Chronology. There was no co-regency between these two kings. An error in writing a date in a tomb led to the supposition of one--but it is no more than a mistake. Amenhotep II became king on the first day of the fourth month of the year--when he was no more than 18 years old. A wine docket from his mortuary temple gives his highest attested date--Year 26. That is correct as new research by me into the writings of the ancient historians has discovered that a king written in Greek as "Cencheres" [or "Acencheres] was none other than Aakheperure Amenhotep II and 26 years was supposed to be the length of his reign according to their knowledge, which agrees with the archaeological evidence.

Therefore, according to the dating scheme I follow, Amenhotep II died at age 44 of what was probably smallpox in 1424 BCE. Whether or not he was the pharaoh of the exodus is irrelevant to any of this.

Unlike the so-called eclipse on which some scholars hang their hats, the moon phase is more certain because we know what the "psDntiw" was--the new moon.

    • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignJoe Baker, Thu Dec 28 01:59
      Hi Marianne As you know, I support the Low Chronology for Dynasty 18 (accession of Thutmose 1 = 1479) and the Middle Chronology for Dynasty 19 (accession of Rameses 2 = 1290). These dates are set... more
      • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Thu Dec 28 13:44
        Joe wrote: "As you know, I support the Low Chronology for Dynasty 18 (accession of Thutmose 1 = 1479) and the Middle Chronology for Dynasty 19 (accession of Rameses 2 = 1290). These dates are set... more
        • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Thu Dec 28 13:52
          This is what I wrote here in July of 1017 in the "Dahamunza" thread: "I now believe I have solved the problem of why Eusebius, by whose reckoning Moses should have left Egypt in 1510 BCE, perversely... more
          • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignJoe Baker, Sat Dec 30 02:50
            Hi Marianne As for the Chronicle of pseudo-Dionysius, which is now called the Zuqnin Chronicle and whose last entry is for 774/5 AD, I am afraid it does not support your argument. Now, I can not find ... more
            • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Sun Dec 31 09:10
              Joe wrote: "Here the era used is (inclusive) years since the birth of Abraham. So 490 in pseudo-Dionysius, is just 490 (inclusive) years after the birth of Abraham. In this year Chencheres began his... more
              • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignJoe Baker, Sat Jan 6 21:15
                Hi Marianne pseudo-Dionysius ... is the first one to say that the Year 490 is when Moses confronted Cencheres This entry does not say Moses confronted Cencheres in 490. The entry says “Year 490. The... more
              • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Sun Dec 31 09:27
                And see Pietersma's book on page 8 as to when Palmanothes and Cenephres were placed. They were Amenhotep I and Thutmose I.... more
                • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Sun Dec 31 10:52
                  Here, once again, is the math of Eusebius. According to Eusebius, there are 2044 years from the birth of Abraham to the 15th year of Tiberias Caesar [which is 29 CE]. Abraham born in 2015 BCE.... more
                  • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignJoe Baker, Sat Jan 6 21:22
                    Hi Marianne In response to your posts, I, for clarity, again give a chart showing the chronology of Eusebius, Pseudo-Dionysius and his excerpts from Artapanos (I add an extra one - via Eusebius [in... more
                  • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Mon Jan 1 11:31
                    Studying Latin for four years comes in handy once in awhile, so I was able to translate the version of Pseudo-Dionysius from that language to a more or less accurate degree. Here is the relevant... more
          • Re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Thu Dec 28 15:48
            The interpretation of the words of the lunar date of Thutmose III hangs on this phrase "hrw m Hb n psDntiw r mty"-- meaning "the day the festival of the new moon as usual" in my opinion. Of course,... more
    • re: Amenhotep II and His ReignMarianne Luban, Sun Dec 17 13:12
      And, oddly, a decorated box from the reign of Amenhotep II even features the god, Bes, with pox all over his body.
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