Marianne Luban
re: Kinglist of Eratosthenes
Fri Aug 24, 2018 18:39
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Ecki [another "Anonymous" wrote:

"Rich Mc Quillen enumerates (Aug. 22. 2018) in his list of Eratosthenes Column I # 5 the Pharao Pemphos.

You wrote : "5. Is a king called Shemsu-Heru-sefi or 'Semempses', which means 'descendent of Heracles'. 'Smsw' means 'follower' ... literally ... 'the son who follows'.""


And that's right! Horus had many names and "Hrw-Sfi" was one of them. The "Smsw" were the companions or followers of Horus. Look them up. Google is your friend. However, this time the writer thought "Smsw" meant "descendant" instead of "companion"--which it also does. I have no idea what king is meant. I am only going by what the author wrote, in Greek, what the name meant in the Egyptian language. I don't know why Horus would have been identified with Heracles


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles

anymore than I know why Horus was associated with the planet, Mercury. Nobody knows what kings are meant, in many instances, in this particular kinglist.


"If have some questions concerning this King "Semempses" (Shemsu-Heru-sefi). Does the name "Semempses" takes aim at Pharao Smendes ? Is it allowed to say, that Pharao Smendes was a "follower of Herakles" ?"


Smendes is the way "Ns-bA-nb-Dd" was written in Greek for reasons that require a lengthy explanation. This name had nothing to do with Horus or followers or descendants. It means "He of the Ram, Lord of Mendes". I don't know anything about the mentioned "Semempses".

"Please help me and give me some hints about him and a clue concerning his period in the time of ancient egypt."


No need to take this kinglist so seriously.

  • re: Kinglist of EratosthenesEcki, Fri Aug 24 13:47
    Hi Marianne Rich Mc Quillen enumerates (Aug. 22. 2018) in his list of Eratosthenes Column I # 5 the Pharao Pemphos. You wrote : "5. Is a king called Shemsu-Heru-sefi or 'Semempses', which means... more
    • re: pemphosRich McQuillen, Fri Aug 24 19:34
      Hi Ecki, I better give reasons for my connections. Pemphos would be the grandson of another pharoaoh, and the brother of a 4th pharaoh. Choosing Shoshenq for Athothese... is a common "th" for "sh"... more
      • The List of EratosthenesMarianne Luban, Sat Aug 25 09:28
        Rich wrote: "These Egyptian letters are imprecise. Like Marianne's example of Saophis for Khufu, if it's correct. If it's correct? Dynasty 4 of Africanus: "Suphis [I] for 63 years. He reared the... more
        • re: The List of EratosthenesMarianne Luban, Tue Aug 28 10:53
          I wrote: "It's not the same king! Aren't you talking about "Pemphos" [more correctly Semempses] the "5th king of Thebes" in the list of Eratosthenes? His name is described as meaning "descendant of... more
          • re: The List of EratosthenesMarianne Luban, Tue Aug 28 11:23
            Then you can check it against the Abydos List https://pharaoh.se/abydos-king-list and you'll see "Smsw" at #7. If you could real hieroglyphs, it would become clear why there are two kings called... more
    • re: Kinglist of Eratosthenes — Marianne Luban, Fri Aug 24 18:39
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