Marianne Luban
Re: Egyptian Leap Year
Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:15
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Joe wrote:

"Just my thought on the statement that the day of the battle was the same as the exact day of psḏntyw. This only make sense if the previous day had been the 29th day of the lunar month. For only on the 29th lunar day could one query if the following day was to be either the 30th day of that lunar month or the 1st day (psḏntyw) of the following lunar month. Only on the following morning would an observation or non-observation of a crescent confirm this query. Thus when the scribe emphasise that this day was psḏntyw he also confirms that the previous lunar month had 29 days (not 30). The statement does not make sense if the previous day had been the 30th day of the lunar month because in that case the new day would unquestionably have been psḏntyw."


Well--what month was it, in your opinion? It's got to be May because that's when the Canaanite wheat harvest begins--which is probably the main reason the Egyptians came. For the wheat. They certainly took a lot of it back to Egypt! But nobody here has yet addressed why there would be a "hrw n Hb n psDntiw" for the Egyptians--a holiday when the moon and its god, Khonsu, were invisible and not yet born--according to the definition of "psDntiw" on a pylon at Karnak. I have already given some evidence as to why this was a Canaanite festival. But I am waiting for someone to explain its importance to the Egyptians, whose most auspicious day of the month was the full moon when the "eye was filled". Yes, "psDntiw" is an Egyptian word--but how else could one expect the Egyptians to refer to the new moon, even if the "Hb" associated with it was not their own?


The only months that have 29 or 30 days are in the Hebrew calendar. From Wiki: "The months in the Sacred calendar are established as lunar months. Therefore the sighting of the new moon was ordained to establish the beginning of the monthly cycle and therefore the first day of the month. The moon's full cycle of illumination averages 29.53059 days. Thus we have our biblical months of either 29 or 30 days.
The word used for New Moon in Hebrew is 'Rosh Chodesh' literally means beginning, head, or renewal and thus. the beginning or head of the month. It is a time of spiritual renewal." Actually, in antiquity, it was a time for feasting and drinking.









https://www.joybysurprise.com/harvest_times_in_israel_.html

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      • Re: New Moon in 23 Thutmose III at MegiddoAnonymous, Sun Dec 16 21:43
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    • Thutmose III Decrees It Must Be MayMarianne Luban, Wed Nov 28 10:09
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    • Re: Egyptian Leap Year — Marianne Luban, Mon Nov 26 11:15
      • Re: Egyptian Leap YearMarianne Luban, Mon Dec 3 11:05
        I accidentally found proof that the Egyptians commemorated a "Hb n psDntiw" at home--although I still have no idea why other than it was the sign of a new month. This was while I was studying the... more
        • Re: Egyptian Leap YearJoe Baker, Wed Dec 5 00:58
          Hi Marianne So now that you have found an Egyptian day 1 psḏntyw festival, do you still hold that the celebration mentioned at Megiddo was a purely Canaanite celebration? If so bear in mind... more
          • Re: Egyptian Leap YearMarianne Luban, Wed Dec 5 16:13
            Joe Baker: "So now that you have found an Egyptian day 1 psḏntyw festival, do you still hold that the celebration mentioned at Megiddo was a purely Canaanite celebration? If so bear in mind... more
            • Re: Egyptian Leap YearMarianne Luban, Wed Dec 5 16:19
              Actually, to be more precise, (ḫd) means "month"--the course of the phases of the moon.
              • ḥdJoe Baker, Mon Jan 7 06:44
                Hi Marianne Actually, to be more precise, (ḫd) means "month"--the course of the phases of the moon The normal Semitic word for month derives from the root wrḫ , hence Akkadian... more
      • Re: Egyptian Leap YearMarianne Luban, Mon Nov 26 14:45
        Here are the Hebrew months and the number of days they contain: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/jewish-calendar.html
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