Rich McQuillen
Re: Wine Jar Labels
Sat Jan 5, 2019 20:02

"I lean most toward Smenkhkare being a son of Akhenaten now, one by a wife other than Nefertiti."
-- I read the paper, Bringing Smenkhkare into focus. These articles are pure gold.

So we know that Tut is the son of a brother/sister combo... whoever they may be... from the DNA.

"Years ago, Dr. James P. Allen separated Smenkhkare, a male, from the female, neferneferuaten, both of them using the prenomen “Ankhkheperure”."
-- So the prenomen/lastname/common parent of Smenkhkare and Nefernereruaten is Ankhkheperure. Smenkhkare and Neferneruaten were brother and sister.

I believe this is the brother-sister combo that were Tut's parents.

"for a time, a consensus began to be formed that the male remains from KV55 were those of Smenkhkare. Since some examiners assigned such a young age-at-death to the skeleton [once a mummy,] the verdict was that this was either a son of Akhenaten or his brother, raised to the kingship because the heretic had no son. Howe4er, the Present writer is convinced the bones are those of Akhenaten who was no older than around 30"
-- We have competing autopsy's on this mummy. One, Derry, is 20 and a new one is 30. The problem with the new one, is they ignored the old autopsy and old comments.

Additionally, AM3 reigned for a long time, as did Akhenaten. 39 yeas was 17 years... almost 55 years between them. For Akhenaten to have only been 30, then Am3 would be around 36 at the time Akhennaten was born. This is old for an eldest son, and very unlikely.

To get to 30... I mean AM3 took power around 13 years old. If Akh did the same, he would also be 30; but with AM3 living to 52, reigning 16 years longer than average, that probably delays Akh quite a bit. If Akh assumes power at the age of 29 due to this long reign, then he died at 46 years old. So 30 is the min-age and 46 is the max-age... and I would put the expected age in the middle at 38 from Akh.

If the KV55 mummy is 20, and Akh was 38, then this isn't a match. And Smenkh with Neferneferuaten are the more likely parents.

  • Re: Wine Jar LabelsMarianne Luban, Mon Dec 17 11:08
    Joe Baker wrote: I wrote: "There is one from Year 1 that reads "from the estate or house [pr] of Ankhkheperure". But another from "Year 1, month 1" [I Akhet when the vintage became ripe] says "from... more
    • Re: Wine Jar Labels — Rich McQuillen, Sat Jan 5 20:02
      • Re: Wine Jar LabelsMarianne Luban, Sun Jan 6 12:31
        Rich McQuillen wrote: I wrote: "I lean most toward Smenkhkare being a son of Akhenaten now, one by a wife other than Nefertiti." Rich: "-- I read the paper, Bringing Smenkhkare into focus. These... more
        • Re: Wine Jar LabelsMarianne Luban, Wed Jan 23 18:58
          Because we know what month of the year the vintage ripened during this period [I Axt, the first month of the Egyptian calendar, mentioned on a label from Amarna with "Year 1"] at least we can know... more
          • Re: Wine Jar LabelsMarianne Luban, Wed Jan 23 19:06
            Got cut off by the Internet. So, as I was saying, Akhenaten was still living then in his final year, which was 17, as there are several wine jar labels marked "Year 17". The same can be said for... more
      • re: AnkhkheperureRich McQuillen, Sat Jan 5 20:46
        In the hypothetical scenario described earlier, let's make "Ankhkheperure" a new person of royal blood. How about a prince and younger brother of AM3. In this scenario, Smenkh is neither the son of... more
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