Jaap Titulaer
Shabaka & Shabataka
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:24
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Hi Toby,

First, my name is Titulaer, not Titalar ;)

Second, the reconstruction of D25, including the order of the reinging kings is based on primary data, not any late secondary or tertiary sources such as Herodotus (as you seem to think).
Explaining what his stories may mean are just educated guesses AFTER the chronology of that period has been reconstructed based on the contemporary sources.

As I stated earlier, please do read the wikipedia entry for Shabataka for a reasonable summary of just some of the reasons (based on primary evidence) why the order must have been Piye, Shabataka, Shabaka, Taharqa (& finally, Tantamani)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebitku

Regards,
Jaap

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