Ian
JEA 88, correction, and Tefnakht
Fri Jun 27, 2003 12:23
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Dear Jean-Fred,

Thanks for the note, and even though I still hope my friends in Paris turn it up somewhere on St-Michel, I will be very happy to get copies from you should they fail.

I will be happy to see your new argument in favor of the reversed order (the one I "gave" you). You know that I am willing to change my mind if I could be convinced.

In my recent post to Fred (I hope he is reading these posts that end up buried back responses that follow), I wrote that the burial of Apis by Bakenranef was attested by several official and private stelae. This is incorrect, as official stelae were not set up until later. But there are several carved stelae attesting to this Apis burial, but only one graffito or ink-inscribed stela of Shabaqo allegedly in the same chamber (according to Mariette).

On Year 19 and Year 12 at Wadi-Gasus. In answering a post by Leo, Fred suggested that Year 12 could belong to Kashta instead of Piankhy as usually assumed. This is possible, and in that case we would have to attribute the Year 19 to Takelot III. But a reattribution could go the other way, and Morkot actually ascribes this Year 12 to Shabaqo, under whom Amenirdis I actually succeeded as God's Wife. This would mean that Year 19 belongs to a king who came to the throne in about 728 (using the conventional order and the Kahn chronology), and I can only think of Nimlot as a possibility (since he is attested in Piankhy's campaign of about 726 assuming 25 instead of 30 years for Piankhy). Perhaps if we have a particular Year of Shabaqo in which Amenirdis I is already attested as the God's Wife we could confirm or discount this hypothesis.

Fred, is the Great Chief of Ma Tefnakht statue published anywhere or is this something you are working on. Could you at least share the names and titles of his ancestors before you go to Egypt? And whose vizier is Baes, if we know?

Thanks, Ian

  • JEA 88Jean-Fred, Fri Jun 27 12:04
    Dear Ian Just a very quick note! JEA 88 has reached Montreal earlier this week and I'm going to my friend's house tonight in order to have a look at it (my friend is member of the EES who publishes... more
    • JEA 88, correction, and Tefnakht — Ian, Fri Jun 27 12:23
      • Wadi Gasus, Takelot III and JF's offerLeo, Sat Jun 28 02:38
        Hello JF, Fred and All, JF, an offer of help from you wld be appreciated concerning just the Broekeman paper. You stated that there were Four articles of deep interest to you in the more recent JEA... more
        • Dear Leo,and all some comments : Leo :Fred's suggestion that Year 19 of WG could belong to Kashta and Year 12 to Takelot III seems particularly tenous since Amenirdis I(Kashta's Grand daughter) 1)may ... more
          • Amenirdis I & Ini Si-EseLeo, Sat Jun 28 15:09
            Oops...Please ignore my other post below with the same title. I must have hit the return key a bit too early. Firstly, my apologies to Fred, I did not recall that Amenirdis I was the Daughter of... more
            • Re: Amenirdis I & Ini Si-EseLeo, Sat Jun 28 17:33
              The Year 3 Quay text that Broekeman speaks about wld have been made c.15-20 Years after the Year 6 QLT for Takelot III. Assuming Takelot III had a reign of 19 Years, his Year 19 minus his Year 6 wld... more
              • Re: Amenirdis I & Ini Si-EseIan, Sat Jun 28 18:00
                Dear Leo, In fact the epithet -meryamun would be applicable to virtually any pharaoh of this period (or for that matter for anyone from Ramesses II to Taharqo). I have yet to see Broekman's... more
                • Amenirdis IIan, Sun Jun 29 18:02
                  Dear Leo, Kitchen, TIP, 382, mentions that the God's Wife Amenirdis I is named in a Year 15 graffito of Shabaqo from the Wadi Hammamat. I do not know any details about this text and whether it... more
                  • Ian, Does Morkot's theory say that the Year 12 date at Wadi Gasus should refer to Amenirdis' tenure as God's Wife rather than as a datable reference to her royal superior--whether it be Kashta, Piye... more
                    • Amenirdis IIan, Mon Jun 30 09:55
                      Hi Leo, Sorry, I mistyped Year 15 for Year 12. Both the Wadi Gasus and the Wadi Hammamat graffiti associate a Year 12 with Amenirdis I. In the former case Shepenwepet I is also named, and associated... more
          • Amenirdis I & Ini Si-Ese (nm)Leo, Sat Jun 28 14:36
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