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ALA — Mary@Sunrise Labradoodles (New Breeder), Mon Feb 14 19:40

Hello everyone, I will be a new breeder in the near future and am planning to adopt some breeding dogs from Australia. I just noticed that a few major breeders such as Sunset Hills, Tasmanian or... more
- Nichii Gakkan — Kyoko@Sakura Garden, Thu Feb 17 16:37
  
  Hello everyone, I am a in home breeder in VA for the past 3 years and Cris Cerva is my mentor to learn so much about this breed. I am originally from Japan and my doodle owner friends are talking... more
- - Thank you Kyoko for your honesty — Gail~Prairie Doodles, Mon Feb 21 13:00
    
    and your willingness to help make this a positive outcome rather than a negative thing for the breed in general but especially those in Japan. Please keep us all updated and thanks again for your... more
  - An opportunity to make a difference — Sam Wilde, Sat Feb 19 18:28
    
    Hello, My name is Sam and I recently asked Melinda Radus to clarify comments she made announcing the upside of her transaction with Nichii Gakkan. She mentioned she spent months working on the... more
  - - Thank you so much for your time — Kyoko@Sakura Garden, Sun Feb 20 08:49
      
      Sam for advising us for our breed. I concerned about the welfare of the dogs in Nichii’s care, because I know the animal business and animal laws there in Japan. When I contacted Melinda at SH on Jan ... more
    - - An opportunity to make a difference — Sam Wilde, Mon Feb 21 06:02
        
        Hello Kyoko, The letter from the three associations should get Aki’s attention, your help appropriate phrasing would be of immense value. I believe Melinda’s hands are tied with Nichii, a condition... more
      - Sam, if you still need contact info... — Jacque, Gabby Jack Ranch, Thu Feb 24 02:34
        
        I will be happy to help you. I think that your advice is excellent and should be well received. Let's see if the organizations stand behind their words.
  - Thank you Kyoko for speaking up. — bonnie@heartsong, Thu Feb 17 16:42
    
    I'm sure there are many wonderful people in Japan who love their animals and who would make wonderful breeders. I do not feel this is good for the breed.
- You should consider getting some pups from USA breeders. — Cris Cerva Virginia Labradoodle, Wed Feb 16 14:36
  
  I think you will find some fine breeding dogs in the USA. Understandably it is a further distance for travel, but there are a variety of breeders who can offer dogs from different gene pools that are ... more
- - I agree with you, Cris, but — Kyoko@Sakura Garden, Thu Feb 17 16:22
    
    the quarantine in Japan is very strict. Dogs need to have 2 rabies 30 days apart and check titer. Once the number is acceptable,then they have to stay here for 180 days till they are ready to fly. I... more
  - - quarantine — Sue Wilde, Fri Feb 18 05:19
      
      This is a very similar protocol for sending dogs to the UK. I worked with Sunset Hills on my first dogs. It will be interesting to follow this new path and the path of the Labradoodle.
    - wow, did not know about their quarantine... — Cris Cerva Virginia Labradoodle, Thu Feb 17 21:26
      
      are they rabies-free? I agree it is a huge undertaking to send a pup with those restrictions.
    - - Yes, Japan is a rabies free country. (nm) — Kyoko@Sakura Garden, Thu Feb 17 22:32
- Thank you for everyone — Mary@Sunrise Labradoodles, Tue Feb 15 20:12
  
  for your time to reply to my concern and also thank you so much for sharing the response from ALA. I just wondered regards this matter, because I was preparing to become a breeder in Japan and... more
- - That's great news... maybe there will be a ALAJP! — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 09:55
    
    sister associaiton under the ILA in Japan for you to be involved with!
- Exciting times ahead for our wonderful breed! — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Tue Feb 15 16:50
  
  Hello to all of you whom I've known for years and those of you, who are new to the Australian Labradoodle’s development as a breed, Some of you who've contacted me privately are already aware of the... more
- - Thanks for your post, Melinda. It is a scary — Helen @ A Walk in the Park, Fri Feb 18 09:22
    
    thought think of a large corporation breeding labradoodles, and your post helps me feel a lot better about it. I think it is wonderful that they will keep using guardian homes for their dogs.... more
  - I understand Nichii own a chain of pet stores in Japan — Linny (not a breeder), Thu Feb 17 05:53
    
    Hi Melinda, I understand Nichii Gakkan are involved in pet retailing, and own a chain of pet stores in Japan. Just wondering if the company have provided a binding undertaking that no Labradoodle... more
  - - Sorry my mistake in shortening their name... — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Thu Feb 17 13:20
      
      They are the Nichii Gakkan, and I know of no such chain.
    - - Perhaps you could check and get back to us — Linny, Fri Feb 18 04:47
        
        Hi Melinda, Thank you for your response. Perhaps you could check and get back to us. I'd be interested to know the particulars of how Nichii Gakkan are selling the puppies. Best wishes Linny
  - Sincere Congratulations — Charlotte McGrath, Wed Feb 16 19:28
    
    Melinda - your life has taken a very different path with the blessing of still being involved in the development of the breed we all love. I wish you well
  - I think you are being naive if you think — Michelle Walker-Thomas, Wed Feb 16 10:40
    
    that this large company is not going to turn this into a large kennel type puppy factory for their benefit. This actually turns my stomach!!! And once it happens... what recourse do you have?? You... more
  - - Yes... the unknown is always scary.. — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 12:34
      
      .. that's why some things of great change take a leap of faith... but I did my research... I spent months reviewing and my contracts with them are under the sale agreement not my consultancy so while ... more
    - - Contracts — Sam Wilde, Wed Feb 16 20:07
        
        Hi Melinda, I have followed this chat site for sometime but have never felt the need to post previously. I have an 11yr old Australian Labradoodle that is my best friend and most loyal companion. I... more
      - Hi Sam I would be more than happy to reply to an email from — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 23:14
        
        you regarding your queries further to this: there was international and corporate lawyers involved and I am confident that while I trust the Nichii's vision, direction and plans, that I have also... more
      - Big World out there — Heidi from Pine Lodge Labradoodles, Wed Feb 16 18:18
        
        As north Americans, we think that the world we see, is the best. We're big, so it must be. We're the U.S.A.! We're the best etc. etc. We do have a lot going for us... BUT so often we don't give... more
      - Thank you... with all my meetings and seeing the way the — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 23:18
      - Japan is WAY behind the USA in regards — Cris Cerva Virginia Labradoodle, Wed Feb 16 14:08
        
        to laws to protect animals and pets. What good is health testing, ESN, and claim of some guardian homes when many will only know a life in small dirty kennels and crates? Please, this is a business... more
      - I would never sell out to a big company — Michelle Walker-Thomas, Wed Feb 16 13:18
        
        and take the risk... EVER! I love my dogs and care too much about protecting this incredible breed. Once the ink is on the paper, it is out of your hands... and they WILL do things their way. They... more
    - I'm sorry, but I completely agree with Michelle - — Diane - Delaware Valley Labradoodles, Wed Feb 16 10:49
      
      When I first read Joyce's response I laughed because I thought she was making a joke. Now I'm just incredulous! Seriously, why would the largest medical supply/care firm in Japan agree to using... more
    - - Sunset Hills sucessfuly ran about 100 — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 12:40
        
        Family care homes... that is large scale! ... We've already proven that a business on a large scale can run a Family Care program successfully. And Cloudcatcher had even more Carer Homes than Sunset... more
  - Exciting times...except — Rich, Wed Feb 16 06:37
    
    Melinda, Thank you for your post and you may disregard my inquiry from the other day as this answers part of my question, though I am unsure as to why Cloudcatcher has not responded regarding her... more
  - - ALA policy — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 09:45
      
      Hi Rich, Actually yes it is a policy of the ALA (don't know about the ALAA) that when new ownership takes place they remove membership, the new owner must submit for membership etc... Nichii... more
    - - IMO, the ALAA is not really a sister organization — Cris Cerva Virginia Labradoodle, Wed Feb 16 14:47
        
        to the ALA. There appears to be very little effort to work in a collaborative way in regards to something as simple as nomenclature/grading. In true sister organizations, there is a parent... more
      - Thank you Melinda for the clarification — Rich, Wed Feb 16 13:40
        
        Sounds like you have done your homework and I wish you and your affiliations the best and thank you for for somewhat easing my concerns. I guess we al have to just wait and see if this merger is in... more
      - Thanks Rich, yes only time will tell but I did invest a lot — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 15:35
        
        of "homework" and consideration with more details that could be easily given towards this... I believe it will be an amazing step forward for our breed and hope that other's will give Nichii the... more
  - thank you for your post — Kendra~ Noble Vestal Labradoodles, Tue Feb 15 18:33
    
    as I said I think most feared the unknown your post should put those fears to rest. I am glad to hear that you will continue to be involved with the breed and the development. Much success to you and ... more
  - - Thanks Kendra it's pretty amazing to change so many lives! (nm) — Melinda - Sunset Hills Founder, Wed Feb 16 09:52
- Sunset Hills & Cloudcatcher — Roma of DragonRam Doodles, Tue Feb 15 11:31
  
  Just a week or so back I was wo9rking on a history of the Labradoodle to put on my website and noticed the same thing - that Sunset Hills & Cloudcatcher were no longer showing up as ALA breeder... more
- - Thank you for sharing.. — Heather Hale ~Hales Labradoodles, Tue Feb 15 11:40
    
    and excellent point about going to the source. I am not a fan of "I know its fact" when the information came via the old fashion game of telephone. IMHO, a fact is first hand information not what... more
- Hi Mary. Perhaps you should contact the ALA directly for — Stefani, Tue Feb 15 05:24
  
  the information you are looking for. Sometimes rumors can get way out of control if the proper information has not come directly from the source. Hopefully Melinda or Kathy (Sunset Hills and... more
- A couple of those breeders have been — Joyce of Annabelle Doodles, Mon Feb 14 20:06
  
  'bought out' by a Japanese company. They are restructuring.
- - What is this all about? (nm) — Carol/scl, Mon Feb 14 23:05
  - I have heard that rumor — Kendra~ Noble Vestal Labradoodles, Mon Feb 14 20:48
    
    what does it mean that they were bought by a Japanese company? Like a corporation? Are they going to become the Walmart of breeding?
  - - It sure sounds that way. It is no rumor, it is fact. — Joyce of Annabelle Doodles, Mon Feb 14 22:03
      
      A lot of dogs have been bought and I am sure a lot will be bred. There has been plenty of talk about this 'buy out' in Australia - it is no secret. I just hope the dogs will be taken care of and that ... more
    - - Most fear the unknown, it is natural — Kendra~ Noble Vestal Labradoodles, Tue Feb 15 11:12
        
        I think the sound of a "company" buying breeders out is what sounds the scariest to most however several breeders in the past have sold their programs to new and unknown people there are even some... more
      - question — Dixie S, Tue Feb 15 10:05
        
        I went to both web sites and could not find anything that indicated a buy out. I am not questioning your word but I am wondering how it is common knowledge in Australia? It makes me uncomfortable to... more
      - Like I said, I am not privvy to all the workings — Joyce of Annabelle Doodles, Tue Feb 15 10:51
        
        but I do know it was posted on facebook by Melinda. Perhaps the deal is not ready for FULL public disclosure. Once info is on facebook, it BECOMES public however. It would be nice if one of them... more
      - Is it possible to be that big and — helen @ A Walk in the Park, Mon Feb 14 22:20
        
        make good homes for those dogs?
      - This is a very large operation as both breeders — Joyce of Annabelle Doodles, Tue Feb 15 06:29
        
        had many breeding dogs. I know many of them were in guardian homes but I have no idea how this 'buy out' affected that relationship. The Japanese company was only interested in large programs that... more
        Vision of the corporation — Anna Amber Labradoodles, Mon Feb 21 11:45
        
        I am an European breeder and I am quite concerned hearing about the sales of breeding dogs to a corporation. No matter how good their vision sounds, from what I understand, the therapy dogs will be... more

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