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Daniel Stretulch
Making sure newbies aren't ingored
Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:25pm

As a newbie, I love how welcoming the PPC has been to me and I would hate to do anything to ruin that atmosphere.
That said, it might be possible, if reworked with care, for a list like this to instead enhance this welcoming atmosphere.

The easiest (though probably least effective) way to do this is by making sure this list is always preceded and/or proceeded by a disclaimer saying that none of these categories are more important than any other.
That way, if someone tries to use the list to prove that their opinion is more important, you can point them back to the same source they used to counterpoint them.
It is very effective to be refuted by one of your own sources. I probably know this from experience.
However, I wouldn't recommend this method, as it's very easy to just leave off the disclaimer (on purpose or on accident) and newbies might have a hard time calling them out on it.

Another way might be to take each of the sentences and add nice descriptions to them that both act as a disclaimer and as entertainment.
Very rough example: Newbies are replaceme... I mean invaluable additions to the PCC. Even though they have only been here less than 6 months, we value these people's opinions as much as any other PPCer.
While that is only a rough example, I hope you can see how this might work.
If the sentence is enjoyable enough, someone trying to use their status to win an argument might look up the quote just for fun.
Also, with the time frame tied to the disclaimer, it will be harder the leave it off.

So, what do you all think?
Do you think this is a good idea?
Is it a terrible idea?
Do you like the method but don't think it works here?
Or do you just want to talk about our general approach to newer members in general?

Leave a comment. Your opinion is just as valid and wanted as any PPCer.

PS: I would really like to hear people discuss about our approach to newbies. While I believe it is already amazing, there is always ways to make it better.

  • Honestly? Who cares?Iximaz, Wed Apr 19 4:51pm
    Trying to make it an official timeline would make the hierarchy of the PPC even more blatant. As it is, we've already got a bit of a problem (just my opinion, sorry, but it's what I've seen) where... more
    • What do you mean by "tenure"?Neshomeh, Thu Apr 20 11:40am
      The way I understand it, tenure means you have a contract that says you can't be fired from your job for a certain period of time. Not sure how that concept applies to a community where we all hang... more
      • Just to briefly use myself as an example:Iximaz, Thu Apr 20 12:07pm
        Do you think people would have been so willing to forgive my meltdown in March if I hadn't been around as long as I had? That's what I meant by 'tenure'. A sort of immunity to behaviors that wouldn't ... more
        • I certainly hope so.Huinesoron, Thu Apr 20 12:51pm
          Here in the UK, there has for several years been active pushing of the 'it's okay to talk about mental health issues' message. So yes, I certainly hope that if a newbie had a meltdown of that kind,... more
        • Not if that was all you ever did.Neshomeh, Thu Apr 20 12:27pm
          But it's not. Fortunately for all of us, we've gotten to see more of you on your good days than on your bad ones, so we know that's the exception, not the rule. Making a good impression to start with ... more
        • Can't speak for anyone else, but I would have. (nm)Scapegrace, Thu Apr 20 12:14pm
    • Making sure newbies aren't ingored — Daniel Stretulch, Wed Apr 19 10:25pm
      • The Welcome MatDrGonzo, Thu Apr 20 12:05pm
        As a newbie myself, I feel that I have really been welcomed with open arms onto this wonderful community. Seriously, you guys are awesome. But, we need to explain a few more things on arrival. I know ... more
        • Behold, a mystic oracle...Neshomeh, Thu Apr 20 12:46pm
          The PPC Wiki ! I kid—Iximaz already pointed the wiki out, and I know it's not the be-all, end-all of information. It is impersonal, too. Not the same as having a live person to talk to. I did... more
        • You're talking about the Big Sib system.Iximaz, Thu Apr 20 12:13pm
          You can check out the page on the Wiki here . It's been around for a while but it's never really taken off, which makes me sad. As for the 'more examples of stories', there's always the Other... more
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