Huinesoron
Why did Anakin fall?
Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:46am
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Okay, this is possibly (probably?) a stupid question, but: why did Anakin Skywalker fall to the Dark Side? My memory of Revenge of the Sith is that he told Mace Windu that Palpatine was a Sith Lord, which is the act of a Jedi. He then walked in on Mace and Palpy fighting, with Palpatine claiming that his Force Lightning was a self-defence move, rather than the blatantly obvious attack it was. And then Palpy told him he could save Padme, and Anakin went 'welp, time to murder a Jedi Master and then go massacre some kiddies!'.

What... what happened in there? Does this mean the stuffy ol' Jedi Order was 100% correct about insisting that Jedi shouldn't be allowed to fall in love? The Light Side of the Force can't actually save people's lives from vaguely-defined Death, so even if Yoda and Obi-Wan had run Anakin's bachelor party, we would still have hit 'the Dark Side says it can save her when I can't'.

But I can't believe George Lucas' final message was 'love is terrible and leads to killing kids'. So why does Anakin fall - and what path would have led to him not doing so?

hS

    • It's very simple...61516, Tue Jan 15 8:10pm
      Allah Skywalker, also known as Allah Gold, was sent by the Presbyterian Church to seduce Speaker D so he can find compromising information about him. This backfired, since Gold, resentful of his lack ... more
    • Anakin didn't murder WinduSeafarer, Tue Jan 15 1:13am
      He cut his hand off in defence of Palpatine (who had ostensibly surrendered), and Palpatine murdered him by throwing him off a building. After that, I guess Anakin's guilt for his role in Windu's... more
    • To my mind, it comes down to three things. Badger421, Mon Jan 14 5:39pm
      First, his upbringing. Anakin is an exceptional Jedi, immensely talented and extremely powerful. It teaches him a kind of arrogance, a belief that he really can do anything. And after all, why not?... more
    • In Anakin's mind, he is the one betrayed.doctorlit, Mon Jan 14 2:14pm
      Or at least, betrayed first. I don't doubt for a second that the love between Anakin and Padmé was real. I think Anakin knew, in his heart, that their relationship was good for both of them . . . . . ... more
      • Pretty much. Anakin was backed into a corner. Grundleplith, Mon Jan 14 3:14pm
        Agreed, it's not that he wanted to fall to the dark side. He saw it as unavoidable if he were to save his love. He realized, perhaps, that the Jedi had been utterly blind when Palpatine revealed... more
    • It was always for Padme.Grundleplith, Mon Jan 14 9:48am
      I believe the real message is the danger of trying to defy destiny. He ended up killing her himself and fulfilling his nightmares of her dying. The novelization (which is excellent) implies that he... more
      • To change the future is to cause it?Huinesoron, Mon Jan 14 10:09am
        Except we know that's not true, even though Yoda thinks it is. "If you leave now, help them you could; but you would destroy all for which they have fought, and suffered." Except, um... he didn't.... more
        • Agreed RE: selfishness.Grundleplith, Mon Jan 14 10:16am
          Yeah, maybe chalk the abrupt transition up to having to cram things into a single movie? Can't really make an episode 3.5 to flesh things out more... I mean, this isn't technically the first time... more
    • I mean, you're discussing the prequels here... (nm)twistedwindowpane, Mon Jan 14 9:27am
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