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Adobe houses, wood floors
Thu Apr 19, 2012 05:36
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Hi Cal and OTC...

It's sure been quiet around here recently!

The headquarters of the LCs ranch near Cliff, NM was an adobe house built by Robert Craft in the early 1880s. It was a U shaped building built like a hacienda house. The bottom of the U ran E-W and was 180 feet long--all very similar to the Governor's Palace in Santa Fe. The bottom of the U was on the south and the wings ran north off the ends of the bottom. This house was built with dirt floors. In 1899 Thomas Lyons added some rooms on the western wing and had wood flooring installed in the whole shebang. This house was still there in the 1970s--maybe still there today.

I have a photo of it taken in the 1970s I believe. I'd upload it if someone would tell me how.

Cheers,

Jerry

  • Adobe homes pre WWII - info?CAL, Wed Apr 18 09:09
    Looking for voices from the past, people that had experiences with adobe homes pre WWII. As a child, I never saw one that had wooden floors. Such flooring seems only a status thing? Also, wood made a ... more
    • For more information on it look at Jerry's post below. Thank you for the image Jerry! Taken from the NR toward the side and rear of the ranch house. - 1976. Copy photo of photogrammetrec plate.
    • Nothing new....OldTexasCowboy, Wed Apr 18 19:07
      About wooden floors in adobe buildings. If you visit any of the old frontier fort sites (in Texas for example) you will find wood floors made of dimension lumber set over split or rough hewn floor... more
      • Re: Nothing new....Harold, Thu Apr 19 16:03
        I used to climb all over the old Fort Davis buildings when I was a kid. That was before they rebuilt the enlisted barracks and officer housing with modern materials. A lot of the old buildings were... more
      • Adobe floors ..dirt and more dirt =CAL, Wed Apr 18 19:23
        Thanks. The buildings of which I refer ... they are dirt on six sides = four walls plus one top plus one bottom ... If stucco, then that was a slurry of dirt, insie and/or out. Wood door or window... more
        • Adobe houses, wood floors — Jerry Lobdill, Thu Apr 19 05:36
          • L C Ranch, "U", me , and my brideCAL, Sat Apr 21 07:59
            Not "you" me and my bride ... but the building shaped like a "U" and which is not the Lyons ranch in your photo where "me and my bride" stayed .... Maybe I shoud shift gears here and discuss the... more
            • Gilla River is two steps behind photographer. Swimming pool elevated about four feet from yard level and two bunk houses same elevation and right also out of photo. Elevation was due to natural slope ... more
            • Lyons lodgeJerry Lobdill, Sat Apr 21 08:20
              Hi Cal, You are describing the Lyons lodge built in 1899 exactly where you describe it to be, and the photo in the link is the lodge. The adobe in my picture is located near Cliff and was called the... more
              • Gentlemen, is this the same house of sharonc, Wed Apr 25 09:44
                the old LC Ranch owned by I. W. Lacy, former cattle ranching partner of L.G. Coleman (bro-in-law of Clay Allison?) Thanks, Sharon
                • Lacy-Coleman & LC RanchJerry Lobdill, Wed Apr 25 10:49
                  Sharon, This house was built by Robert Black on his 160 acre homestead, no earlier than 1870. The L&C partnership bought it from him in the time frame 1883-1886. It was owned by the LCs until the... more
          • Very Interesting Gentleman!Leah, Thu Apr 19 10:00
            Jerry, You can send the pic to me or I can explain in email how to post the picture. I would enjoy seeing it.
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