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Pat
What about Darby?
Fri Sep 21, 2012 19:37
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Interviewed in his 90's , he says he rode with Butch to the Hole in Wall. First of all he is almost an unknown.I have no record of him being in Wyoming or riding with any of the gang. And since Butch never rode to the Hole in Wall then how did this guy do it.
And Hanks has to be the source for Lula thinking that Butch died in Salem ,Oregon 1935 per these letters. Clearly this is Phillips not Cassidy.
I think this is the source of alot of the stories and myths surrounding Butch.

  • question re A.W. Brill & Brill holsters — Daniel Buck, Fri Sep 21 13:18
    Two Texas history questions. 1/ when did the Brill family open its first leather business? A 1968 obit for Arno W. Brill says "He and his father established the A.W. Brill leather Co. in the early... more
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      • many thanks — Daniel, Tue Oct 9 21:15
        Dave, Many thanks. Very helpful. Dan
    • Questions — Pat, Fri Sep 21 14:10
      There are a lot of questions about the authenticity of this weapon and its provenance. One big glaring problem is with the docket. It has his name as George Leroy Parker when in fact he was Robert... more
      • name clues — Daniel Buck, Fri Sep 21 15:12
        Pat, The "George LeRoy Parker" name on the docket document is curious, a small irregularity, though perhaps not glaring since he was arguably known by different names to different people. There are... more
        • We are on the same page Dan . — Pat, Fri Sep 21 18:09
          I have a long list of problems with all of this . Why did Christisons family say that Butch's mother only called and asked if they could do it. Not that Butch actually went in. He would never... more
          • Cassidy amnesty Colt .45 mystery — Daniel Buck, Fri Sep 21 18:27
            Pat, You put your finger on the underlying question, is the entire Butch Cassidy surrender story nothing but folklore? -- to which the so-called "amnesty Colt .45" is window dressing? At this point... more
            • What about Darby? — Pat, Fri Sep 21 19:37
              • William Darby, the amnesty Colt's Jack Crabb — Daniel Buck, Fri Sep 21 21:24
                Yes, Mr. Darby. A 90-year-old man who signs a typewritten statement, apparently prepared for him by E. Dixon Larson, the owner of the Colt. Darby functions as a sort of Jack Crabb, supposedly... more
                • Dan right on — Pat, Fri Sep 21 22:16
                  I have 2 sheets now of errors in this supposed provenance. For now just look at the docket again and on right hand side where Moyle signed as JP. Look at the date Jan 2, 1??? .Someone has blotched... more
                  • Cassidy amnesty Colt speculative leaps — Daniel Buck, Sat Sep 22 04:27
                    The text at the bottom of the March 6, 1973, Colt/Larson letter is on a slip of paper pasted on (perhaps by Larson, he was the one who gathered most if not all of these documents) as an annotation of ... more
                    • Was the Kansas store — James Wright, Sat Sep 22 18:15
                      Simmons Hardware? A major distributor for Colt
                      • Schmelzer, not Simmons — Daniel Buck, Sat Sep 22 20:09
                        Jams, Oops, the "amnesty Colt .45" was shipped to J.P. Schmelzer & Sons in Leavenworth, Kansas, in January 1895. But the story is the same, the trail ends there. There is no indication of where the... more
                      • the trail ends there — Daniel Buck, Sat Sep 22 19:58
                        James, That's where the trail ends for this particular Colt. There is no evidence about where it went from there; could have been shipped to Alberta, Albania, or Area 51. Dan
                    • Rainmaker — Pat, Sat Sep 22 10:20
                      Frank Melbourne was the Rainmaker , who swindled farmers and ranchers out of their hard earned money claiming to be able to make it rain during an extended drought in the west. In 1891 Cheyenne, WY... more
                    • Dan again correct — Pat, Sat Sep 22 10:10
                      You have a wonderful way with words. Thank you.In my inarticulate way I was trying to explain the same. And it is also ironic that the short letter from Monte in 1998 the "expert" mispelled Cassidy... more
    • Re: question re A.W. Brill & Brill holsters — James Wright, Fri Sep 21 13:58
      Let me check Dan. I know they were in Austin and Texas Rangers cherished the Brill gun leather. Very collectable
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