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Bob Cash
Re: James Welch and the Eastern Cherokee
Thu Jul 12, 2018 09:24
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Wow! Very interesting, Martha. My ex-wife's husband retired and took up genealogical research as a business and a hobby. My daughters, his step daughters, asked him to help research their grandmother's line, since we had a lot of information on the Cash side of the family (Johnny and all) but very little on my mother's paternal line. Her father, Arthur Carnes, was born in 1870 in Mississippi and we had a tintype of him as a young man that in our opinion, and the opinion of most that we showed the picture to, looked like a light skinned Black man. I had always been puzzled by the progressive views on racial equality that my mother and some of her siblings held and transmitted to me as child growing up in the segregated Texas of the 1950's, and where that might have come from with parents born in the post-Civil War South (my grandmother was born in 1880). When my mother was in her nineties she told my daughter that when her grandparents moved to Texas from Mississippi they left her father in the care of a Black family and went back to get him after a couple of years. Knowing what was happening in Mississippi in the 1870's this seemed a little strange to me. The shorten this up, after DNA testing and finally finding census data on my great grandfather in 1860 at age 18 (who is not designated mixed race, but shown living in a household that is , it tuns out my great great grandmother was woman of African descent (Nigerian/Cameroon border) and we are not kin to any of the others Carnes' from that area of Mississippi. We did find that a Carnes was one of the biggest slave owners in that area, but we were not related. So, according to the segregation laws of most of the South until the mid-sixties, my pasty white self would have been considered African-American because of my 6.5% African DNA, although, in Texas, I would have been considered white, because the racial identity laws here only considered one black if a great grandparentr was black,but if your Black ancestor was a great great grandparent one could legally claim oneself to be white.

  • James Welch and the Eastern CherokeeMartha Fanning, Wed Jul 11 22:06
    James Welch and the Eastern Cherokee By Lawrence Petrisky January 26, 2004 at 09:50:34 James Welch and the Eastern Cherokee Cherokee Ancestor James Welch is the white ancestor of some of the early... more
    • Re: James Welch and the Eastern Cherokee — Bob Cash, Thu Jul 12 09:24
    • Don't click on any of the links in the article.Martha Fanning, Thu Jul 12 06:56
      I clicked on the "ancestor" one to see what it was linked to, and it wasn't good! Next time I'll copy and paste to a word pad first, to get rid of any links! My apology!
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