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Steve Gatto
Re: What a great cover story!
Fri Dec 7, 2018 06:04
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According to Randy Farmer:

"I'm surprised, Steve, that you didn't notice in the 6 newspaper reports of the Scar Face incident, that the April 21 report out of Wichita (not April 20) quoted "Sheriff Dudley Reynolds of Boyd County, Texas" and/or Sheriff Dubb R. Reynolds, of Boyd county, Texas"."

Well Randy, The following is one of the reports out of Wichita dated April 20, 1888:

Wichita Star, April 20, 1888:
"Last Evening a Deputy Sheriff, from one of the upper counties in Texas, arrived in the city on business. In the company of Deputy Sheriff Metcalf, Reynold's look over the city for a man he was after, and when interviewed by a Journal man told a starting story of the mob law employed in No-Man's Land. . . 'Curly Bill' had fell early in the engagement from a wound in the leg, but he was game crouching behind the carcass of a dead horse, he held the avengers at bay while his companions in crime made good their escape, but his life paid the forfeit and he was riddled with bullets."

The following is another of the reports out of Wichita on April 20, 1888:

Wichita Beacon, April 20, 1888:
"Another illustration of the speedy justice to horse thieves, as meted out in the west, 'the wild and wooly,' was related to a Beacon reporter by Deputy Sheriff Dudley Reynolds of Boyle County, Northern Texas . . . Curley Bill was filled full of holes attempting to pull a pistol."

Here's another account based on a report from Wichita from April 20, 1888 that was published in Denver the next day and is the basis of the National Live Stock Journal's article:
Rocky Mountain News, April 21, 1888:

"Vigilantes and Horse Thieves.
Special to the News.

Wichita Kas., April 20. Sheriff Dudley Reynold's of Boyd County, Texas, to-day related a most startling and incident of border life in that country. . . . Two of the regulators and two of the thieves were killed, and it is thought three of the latter managed to make their escape. The three captured alive were disposed of as follows: Hank Windom and Curly Bill were shot, and Scarface, the leader, was dragged to death. The vigilantes, thus satisfied, left for their homes in Kansas"

I'm not quite sure what in my post made you go off - I simply noted that the reports out of Wichita dated April 20, 1888 (see the above again) stated the Curly Bill was killed (which the accounts do state). So, which is it - was Curly Bill riding with a gang terrorizing Kansas or was he a super detective who brought down a gang of outlaws and faked his own death? Or was the entire story B.S. altogether?

No, I have not been to Boyd County or Boyle County, Texas, nor would I likely go to them if they existed. However, I have been to Chihuahua, Mexico.

You don't need to look to some 1888 stories if you want evidence of Curly Bill surviving Tombstone.

You might recall the J. C. Hancock maintained that Jimmy Hughes had told him that Curly Bill was in New Mexico when Wyatt Earp said he killed Brocius. In the summer of 1882, there are reports of Curly Bill being alive and riding with a gang of rustlers in New Mexico - Grant County to be specific - but like Pony Diehl he likely ventured into the Mesilla Valley in Dona Ana County at times where John Kinney was operating a large scale rustling ring. Of course, Governor Sheldon of New Mexico was not too keen on the rustling activity and general banditry occurring in the territory so he activated the militia. During early 1883, many rustlers were arrested, including John Kinney himself, while others were killed. Even Hurricane Bill Martin was believed to have been one of the outlaws killed by the Militia in the Rustler War in New Mexico in 1883. Others, like Pony Diehl and our friend Curly Bill, managed to make their way to Mexico. Hence, the El Paso Daily Times' June 26, 1883 newspaper report declaring "Curly Bill, so often reported killed, is in Old Mexico." Likewise, Pony Diehl was spotted in Chihuahua and arrested by Mexican authorities at the request of the John Riley of the Dona Ana County Stock Association who provided some funds to induce the authorities to hold the rustler. Captain Van Patten of the New Mexico Militia took a fast train to Chihuahua and on June 27th notified John Riley that the arrested man was Pony Diehl and Pony was extradited from Mexico and brought back to El Paso on June 28th.

  • What a great cover story!Randolph W. Farmer, Thu Dec 6 21:27
    Associated Press Dispatch, May 21, 1881: "Curly Bill"...was shot and mortally wounded at Gatesville [sic] yesterday by Jim Wallace, one of his comrades." But...Curly Bill was killed by Jim... more
    • Re: What a great cover story! — Steve Gatto, Fri Dec 7 06:04
      • @ SteveRandolph W. Farmer, Fri Dec 7 11:48
        Guess what: There is no Boyd County or Boyle County, Texas. As far as I can tell there never was either. Sheriff Dudley Reynolds or Dubb Reynolds? Haven't found him either. Kinda puts a different... more
        • Pretty hard to winDavid , Fri Dec 7 14:33
          a debate (or even come close) with Steve on anything relating to Curly Bill or the Cowboys, as one author embarrassingly found out in 2006 at the WOLA conference in Sierra Vista. The awkward... more
        • @RandySteve Gatto, Fri Dec 7 12:04
          I know that there is no Boyd County or Boyle County, Texas. That's why I responded, "No, I have not been to Boyd County or Boyle County, Texas, nor would I likely go to them if they existed."
          • @Steve2Randolph W. Farmer, Fri Dec 7 12:08
            This isn't about you, Steve. It never was. This is about the truth and the willingness to consider all new information without bias.
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