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Ben Harleman
Omaha and crooks
Sat May 4, 2019 22:10
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This message is intended primarily for Kenny, but of course any information anyone has to share is desired.

Very often, in a lot of your postings, you mention the crooks and scammers and prostitutes that seemed to have been centered around Omaha / Council Bluffs and places in that area; essentially the Iowa and Missouri border area. The impression I get is that it seems to have been a bit of a hub for scammers and prostitution. Would you say this is correct? And if so, what is the reason for it? Is it essentially because they were sort of train hubs between the Wild Frontier and the relatively more civilized areas?

It seems that in reference to this class of individual, when in places like Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, they seem to always be in transit. While in the previously mentioned locations, it seems that it was more of a permanent type setup. Am I reading this correctly?

Thanks,
Ben

    • Re: Omaha and crooksK.t.K., Mon May 6 08:35
      Ben, for a basic understanding of whys and wherefores I would recommend firstly to brush up on "Hell On Wheels" phenomenon for the building of the transcontinental railroad in the late 60s. It... more
      • Re: Omaha and crooksBen Harleman, Mon May 6 18:45
        Wow, thanks for that excellent explanation. Admittedly, and ashamedely, I don't know a lot about about the Hell on Wheels movement across the west. I know the basics, but have been wanting to further ... more
        • This one should sufficeK.t.K., Mon May 6 19:23
          Although Wikipedia can't hurt on this topic.... more
          • Re: This one should sufficeK.t.K., Mon May 6 19:32
            And when you get to the part about Benton, Wyoming, you'll know that two of the many shooting deaths occurring there in August 1868 were perpetrated by Charley Storms and "Ten-Die" Brown, under their ... more
            • I am curious Kenny....Peter Brand, Mon May 6 23:53
              If they were using aliases, how do you know they were Storms and Brown? Cheers PB
              • Because I lerned the aliases.K.t.K., Tue May 7 06:37
                Just like I learned the aliases of Louisa Huston, Houston, Earp, Johnson, Peters. Brown went by Ten-Die, Ten-Dice, Trick Brown, George Brown and his real name of James M. Brown. Off Wheeler used more ... more
      • Re: Omaha and crooksBob Cash, Mon May 6 13:42
        In my increasingly thick mist of memory, I seem to remember finding an article about a San Diego or Los Angeles real estate businessman recalling his association with Wyatt Earp while both were in... more
        • I saved what you posted.K.t.K., Mon May 6 16:12
          Try to remember Cash, that you've always been like E. F. Hutton to me. From one of my six different files on "Black Hills" or "Deadwood," does this sound like you? "This article was from the January... more
          • Baker addendumK.t.K., Mon May 6 16:48
            Now I found the remainder of your post, which was to me, dated [Bob Cash - 11/10/2009] I can post it if you want to see how you used to talk when you were young.
            • Please do, young man. (nm)Bob Cash, Mon May 6 20:13
              • conclusionK.t.K., Mon May 6 20:42
                "The father is not named in the article. If he in fact, knew Wild Bill in Deadwood he might be one of the Bakers that you have listed as being there early on. One thing I didn't mention in my post... more
                • Re: conclusionBob Cash, Mon May 6 20:45
                  I wrote a lot gooder back then.
                  • Actually it was good.K.t.K., Mon May 6 21:06
                    Then again, you've always been able to out reason everybody. The hard part is when you won't agree with me.
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