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K.t.K.
Re: Keeping it straight
Sun Jun 2, 2019 19:14
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I found the evidence and proved that Luke Short was a bunko operator YEARS before the Luke Short Biography was written. Not only that but I donated it all - specific to his Kansas City activity - to a Luke Short website. I have always donated significant finds to the entities who would most appreciate them. Three items went the Blonger Brothers website, pertaining to Sam Blonger. They thanked me profusely. Can't remember all the donations. Most recently I contacted descendants of highly noted Wells Fargo messenger Mike Tovey. Having put together his biography I shared it freely and was rewarded hugely with two photos of Tovey in his prime and one of his twin brother in middle age. Both the descendant and myself knew that Tovey was never named Martin Tovey, despite the fact that the name Martin somehow got inscribed on his monument. His name was Michael Tovey, period, regardless that highfaluting authors (such as Boesseneker erroneously published that his name was Martin Mike Tovey. I also smashed the fallacy that his height was 6'7" - seeing a how men were measured in stocking feet for some of the State Great Registers.

Luke Short went straight from Buena Vista to Kansas City where he was dealing three-card monte at the famed Marble Club. That is a bunko game, for which he was arrested on complaint of a victim. He got out of that mess just in time to join the Easterner at Tombstone in November 1880, which faction had as a nucleus Dodge City boys.
The Slopers group were based out of San Francisco, but made up of gamblers, and miners turned gamblers, who had a much longer history in many boom camps of the Pacific Slope - thus slopers.

  • Keeping it straightBen Harleman, Sun Jun 2 11:59
    Just for clarification, since you mention both the Tombstone Gambler's War and Top & Bottom gang. The Slopers and T&B Gang were not connected, were they? One group being a rail-following group of... more
    • Re: Keeping it straight — K.t.K., Sun Jun 2 19:14
      • Luke ShortBen Harleman, Tue Jun 4 15:08
        I was aware of his time and arrest in K.C. but don't really know a lot about it. Buena Vista is something I really know very little about. As I recall, he was possibly working/living at/with a grocer ... more
        • Re: Luke ShortK.t.K., Tue Jun 4 18:13
          I fleshed out the Buena Vista story in a biography I compiled on Miles Mix. He was a very close friend of Bat Masterson and a fellow Dodge City alumni. Mix is on the census as Town Marshal at Buena... more
          • Re: Luke ShortAnonymous, Thu Jun 6 21:25
            Boy I sure am glad to get some more insight to the Buena Vista chapter, even if it was a relatively short one. Do you know how long it was that he was there before he headed to K.C.? Great stuff... more
            • Long-barrelled ColtsK.t.K., Sat Jun 8 04:51
              I am assuming Bat was backing the play of new Town Marshal Mix. Although Bat was known to favor a Colts with four or five-inch barrel. My 1880 chronology on Luke Short jumps from June 1st Census at... more
              • Wayne ShortBen Harleman, Sun Jun 9 02:04
                As I mentioned, I noted your dissatisfaction with the Parsons & DeMattos book on Luke Short, I had a couple of small issues with it myself, but I'm curious about Wayne Short's book on Luke. Do you... more
              • K.C. Tombstone, Dodge, DeadwoodBen Harleman, Sun Jun 9 01:28
                Hah, gotta admire the man from Texas! So I knew of Short in Buena Vista, but thought it was a pass through (glad to get that knew info from you) and I knew of his arrest in KC and three days in jail... more
                • Luke at DeadwoodK.t.K., Sun Jun 9 11:27
                  According to his own dictation. Luke Short said he moved on from Texas to see "The Black Hills in 1876." In 1877 he left there for Ogallala, Nebraska, knowing it was one of the largest shipping... more
                  • Re: Luke at DeadwoodBob Cash, Mon Jun 17 00:07
                    Also, I believe that in one of the telegrams from the Webster-Hinkle faction to the governor during the Dodge City War it is pointed out that Luke had no history in the city before arriving in 1881.
                    • Re: Luke at DeadwoodBen Harleman, Tue Jun 18 23:40
                      Thanks Bob & Kenny (a week later). It is very interesting as you both point out, that he doesn't even include himself there. Could Luke's presence have been included by Lake, possibly looking to... more
      • P.S. - BenK.t.K., Sun Jun 2 20:51
        My mention of personal donations will be remiss without mentioning the idiom of what goes around comes around. In this field alone I have been the recipient of much more than I could hope to repay.... more
        • Re: P.S. - BenBen Harleman, Tue Jun 4 15:14
          And I certainly am grateful for the Brooks papers from Gary Roberts that you sent me, and last summer Tom Gaumer brought to Tombstone a copy of the WWHA Journal for me to read about Wyatt's first... more
          • Keen MindsK.t.K., Tue Jun 4 19:04
            I would have to rank your keen mind right up there with Mr. Cash. That dude could trump a trump card.
            • Re: Keen MindsBob Cash, Sat Jun 8 13:59
              Damn it, Kenny, I was just about to ask you one of those questions that you always hurt my feelings by accusing me of asking it just to lure you into an ambush. Now you said something nice about me... more
              • A lot of good vibes :DBen Harleman, Sun Jun 9 01:59
                Thanks Bob, I'm not sure I've quite earned a ranking yet, but I continue to read and learn as much as I can. I try to take notes and chart items as I go along in order to better create the world in... more
              • ...ambassador of diplomacy. But when I looked up "diplomat" in Webster's Dictionary.....to my chagrin there was no steenkin' picture!
            • High praise!Anonymous, Thu Jun 6 21:36
              Thanks Kenny, any alignment with Bob Cash is greater compliment than is deserving; I marvel at how much stuff he digs up so casully. But you know, in an old post on B.J.'s, Gary Roberts had posited... more
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