Sia☺giah
Freedom of speech also has personal responsibilities
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:51pm
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That includes the ramifications of exercising one's freedom of speech. We are guaranteed that our government CANNOT punish us for exercising our right to free speech, guaranteeing us freedom from governmental punishment. However, freedom of speech does NOT guarantee freedom from the personal & private sector consequences.

IOW, the government CANNOT jail or punish us for speaking our minds, but our friends, family, employers, and the general public ALSO have freedom of speech and expression, as well as other rights, such as freedom of association in whom they allow to be associated with themselves or their brand. Thus, we can be fired, divorced, ostracized, or vilified in the public eye. We have ZERO guarantees that our speech must be "accepted", it simply cannot be legally prevented beyond an employer prohibiting their employees from saying or doing certain things lest they be fired or our family/friends deciding they no longer want to associate with us.

So, that translates into one having personal responsibility to police our OWN "free speech" so that we do not suffer the negative PERSONAL consequences that may follow ill-considered or "socially unacceptable" speech.

It is PURE BS for the POTUS, or his representatives, to threaten a private citizen with punishment for exercising their right to free speech. They should have kept their big mouths SHUT. If they wanted to put it out there that they think that NFL owners should require compliance with traditional behavior associated with the National Anthem or our flag from their employees, they should have had a NON-SPOKESMAN make the comment. Sanders speaks FOR the White House and tRUMP IS the POTUS, making both of them absolutely the WRONG PEOPLE to make such remarks from an official podium. NO surprise that none of them seem to understand that simple truth. The POTUS is not a "private citizen" while in office and the WH spokesperson represents the OFFICIAL position of the POTUS.

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    • Freedom of speech also has personal responsibilities — Sia☺giah, Mon Sep 25 1:51pm
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                        • Again... what authority does he have thatSprout, Mon Sep 25 4:30pm
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                          • Read the LawMerlin, Mon Sep 25 5:08pm
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