SproutNot a threat...Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:54pm192.86.118.14If I tell everyone I think you are a jerk, that is not a threat.
If others believe me and stop hanging out with you, that doesn't make me telling folks you are a jerk into a threat.
If you are a professional in a given field, it is unwise to piss off PAYING CUSTOMERS...
Games boycotted, merchandise sales reductions, losing ones job on a team, etc... These are all consequences of the actions of the player.
If I am boycotting a local grocery store for poor service, and I convince my friends to stop shopping there as well, and as a result they end up laying off staff, that isn't MY doing. It is a consequence of their poor service.
Trump's Threats Are a Punishment Meerlin, Mon Sep 25 2:38pmwhether or not any players, announcer, etc. is fired, games are boycotted, etc., because the threat alone injures the victim of the threat. Trump is the one showing disrespect for the Constitution,... more
- Not a threat... Sprout, Mon Sep 25 2:54pm
You Are Not the POTUS of the USA Merlin, Mon Sep 25 3:02pmwho is infamous for threatening and making good on his threats.
So what? Sprout, Mon Sep 25 3:05pmAre you claiming that the POTUS has the actual authority to fire a professional athlete? Of course not. Therefore saying that such a person SHOULD be fire is NOT actually a threat TO fire them. No... more
18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity Merlin, Mon Sep 25 3:40pm18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch (a) Whoever, being a... more
The NFL rule book: PH👻👻EY, Wed Sep 27 2:53pmhttp://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/09/26/nfl-rules-require-players-to-stand-for ... So, what obligation or even Sprout, Mon Sep 25 4:09pmperception of obligation does the team have to fire an employee based on the opinion on the POTUS that the employees actions warrant firing? What official act was the POTUS threatening to take, or... more
We're this the 1960s and 70s, PH👻👻EY, Mon Sep 25 7:12pmI could get behind these protests. But, these black players are hardly in a position to complain. They are entertainers, and I am not amused. Police training reform world be a better challenge. How... more
That's a lot of 1950's and 1960's stereotypes you used. HeavyHemi, Mon Sep 25 7:51pmWhy do you believe they are protested just for themselves. That's what you're arguing. That because, you're not facing the same conditions, you cannot complain about and protest the treatment of... more
You tell me. What ARE they belly aching about? PH👻👻EY, Mon Sep 25 10:41pmEntertain or exit stage left.
You're arguing and you don't know why? HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 26 12:05amGo away, troll.
Just curious as to your having simplistic summation. PH🙄🙄EY, Tue Sep 26 9:29amBut I do think in this atmosphere of political divisions, diversions, and assorted "causes, the underpinning of how this kneeing came to be is missed. Kapuknik's grandfather, a Muslim, is said to be... more
I simply pointed out that if you don't know why... HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 26 12:32pmnor am I entertained with your babbling. You prefer your imagination.
Pointing is rude. PH🙄🙄EY, Tue Sep 26 3:27pmBut thank you for your concern. It's unwarrented. Perhaps you should educate yourself as to what they are Sia☺giah, Mon Sep 25 11:11pmactually protesting BEFORE you pass judgment on what they are doing. I am now bewildered by your position taken because without that knowledge, HOW can you possibly have given an ounce of actual... more Mark Hunt repeated Trump's threat to the KC Chiefs Pikes, Mon Sep 25 4:13pmas the same kind of warning, with real teeth. So there you have someone acting on the "president's" lead.
(2) influences, or offers or threatens to influence, Merlin, Mon Sep 25 4:19pm(the official act of another. Res ipsa loquitur, as they used to say on the Appian Way.
Distraction Pikes, Thu Sep 28 1:40amPage out of Reagan's book. USSR shoots down Korean passenger jet with Americans on board, tension is so thick it can be knife cut, and James Watt announced the ethnic make up of his cabinet.... more Again... what authority does he have that Sprout, Mon Sep 25 4:30pmwould allow him to influence? What authority do you have to allow you to influence the manager into firing the employee? Or are you suggesting that a federal official may not express dissatisfaction... more
Read the Law Merlin, Mon Sep 25 5:08pm18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch (a) Whoever, being a... more
I'm sure that you know that you're pretty much wasting your Sia☺giah, Mon Sep 25 11:50pmtime attempting to explain anything to him. He's apparently not interested in actual discussion but only in arguing over semantics and picayune nonsense.
So, reading a law is not about semantics? LOL.... Sprout, Tue Sep 26 8:53amI read the law. It does not apply as there is no influence in terms of law, and there are no official acts. It is up to Merlin to show it.
He already did. That you still disagree... HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 26 3:52pmis your problem...as per usual. Fortunately the world and the legal system doesn't revolve around your fringe views.
We'll see if the professional attorneys file charges.... Sprout, Tue Sep 26 3:58pmOr if they for some strange reason don't consider Merlin's legal opinion to be paramount. I won't hold my breath waiting for an indictment.
Which is untterly irrelevant if charges are filed. HeavyHemi, Tue Sep 26 6:51pmOr not. Too bad you can't defend your legal opinion beyond, 'neener neener'...as per usual.
I'll wait for a lawyer, or some other legal expert Sprout, Wed Sep 27 8:42ambeyond a BBS poster or a politician to offer an EXPERT opinion as to whether simply being POTUS equates to a legal equivalent of "influence" over the hiring/firing decisions of the NFL.
Are you truly incapable of seeing it for yourself? Either Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 27 1:06pmit fits or it doesn't. Clearly, it FITS. Whether or not the justice department chooses to file charges or someone files a lawsuit against him is IRRELEVANT as to whether or not the law fits the deed. ... more
Bottom line it does NOT fit... Sprout, Wed Sep 27 2:17pmComplaining to a manager, and even suggesting that an employee get fired, when you receive poor service is not INFLUENCE...
I'll wait for a lawyer, or some other legal expert... HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 2:26pmYou can't even take your own advice. Then your silly attempt to change the context OUTSIDE of what is covered by statue. That is just lazy and intellectually dishonest....as per usual.
There is only one statue PH👻👻EY, Wed Sep 27 2:36pmthat covers anything.... And that anything is the body of Confederate General A. P. Hill. He is buried under his commemorative statue in the center of a traffic circle in Richmond. But there are lots ... more Oh...then all your opinions you expressed were a waste. HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 12:54pmAs you're just a BBS poster. I think if you focused more on defending your arguments and less on trying to attract attention, you'd seem a bit more mature and intelligent. As per usual, grow up.