Personal responsibility
Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:36pm

I wrote that position many times.

Why does this national anthem begin games? It's the prelude to the entertainment. It is ownership using as political statement for emotional response from fans.

I don't stand for this song because I know what it is. Where it came from, its origin, how it became the US national anthem. It plays right into the ignorant mentality of people for whom I worked, who themselves are remarkably stupid and undisciplined people. Give them a little power and you get something like Trump. Or Hillary. I do stand for America the Beautiful. It was never about the virtues of drunkenness, or a rowdy drinking song sung by a sex crazed, lecherous, lascivious, all-male secret fraternity of deviant 1%ers. It doesn't require a singer to be drunk to sing it, and the drunker the better. What were the men of that frat like? Look at Anthony Weiner and Donald Trump. They're modern examples. One rich, the other less rich.

I can't change it. But I don't have to stand for it either. It is my choice, for what ever my reasons are. The next man may feel differently and I respect that. He is as entitled to his beliefs as I am mine.

The NFL players have a stage. One owner, Mark Hunt of the KC Chiefs said the stadium is his stage, and his players and coaches will do as he says. He promised to follow through with Trump's warning. Arrowhead Stadium was built with taxpayer funds, like they all are now. It isn't his stage. He doesn't own it.

Not all players kneel. The fact some do and some don't, and yet are united in their friendship and duty is a strength to be recognized, not an action to be condemned. No game is played to honor veterans of wars, or police. These are played for the entertainment of fans from all walks of life. They don't protest on the field, or during the performance. Their peaceful reserve of that for one, two minute period is in fact, reflective of a work force of mostly college educated professionals. Leave it to a man like Trump to make a divisive issue of it.

  • That includes the ramifications of exercising one's freedom of speech. We are guaranteed that our government CANNOT punish us for exercising our right to free speech, guaranteeing us freedom from... more
    • to punish them in any way... A gov't representative may offer an opinion that the EMPLOYER should or should not fire someone, but it is still 100% up to the employer... And, certainly exercising ones ... more
      • Trump's Threats Are a PunishmentMeerlin, Mon Sep 25 2:38pm
        whether or not any players, announcer, etc. is fired, games are boycotted, etc., because the threat alone injures the victim of the threat. Trump is the one showing disrespect for the Constitution,... more
        • Not a threat...Sprout, Mon Sep 25 2:54pm
          If I tell everyone I think you are a jerk, that is not a threat. If others believe me and stop hanging out with you, that doesn't make me telling folks you are a jerk into a threat. If you are a... more
          • You Are Not the POTUS of the USAMerlin, Mon Sep 25 3:02pm
            who is infamous for threatening and making good on his threats.
            • So what?Sprout, Mon Sep 25 3:05pm
              Are you claiming that the POTUS has the actual authority to fire a professional athlete? Of course not. Therefore saying that such a person SHOULD be fire is NOT actually a threat TO fire them. No... more
              • 18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch (a) Whoever, being a... more
                • The NFL rule book:PH👻👻EY, Wed Sep 27 2:53pm
                  http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/09/26/nfl-rules-require-players-to-stand-for ...
                • So, what obligation or evenSprout, Mon Sep 25 4:09pm
                  perception of obligation does the team have to fire an employee based on the opinion on the POTUS that the employees actions warrant firing? What official act was the POTUS threatening to take, or... more
                  • We're this the 1960s and 70s, PH👻👻EY, Mon Sep 25 7:12pm
                    I could get behind these protests. But, these black players are hardly in a position to complain. They are entertainers, and I am not amused. Police training reform world be a better challenge. How... more
                  • as the same kind of warning, with real teeth. So there you have someone acting on the "president's" lead.
                    • (the official act of another. Res ipsa loquitur, as they used to say on the Appian Way.
                      • DistractionPikes, Thu Sep 28 1:40am
                        Page out of Reagan's book. USSR shoots down Korean passenger jet with Americans on board, tension is so thick it can be knife cut, and James Watt announced the ethnic make up of his cabinet.... more
                      • Again... what authority does he have thatSprout, Mon Sep 25 4:30pm
                        would allow him to influence? What authority do you have to allow you to influence the manager into firing the employee? Or are you suggesting that a federal official may not express dissatisfaction... more
                        • Read the LawMerlin, Mon Sep 25 5:08pm
                          18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch (a) Whoever, being a... more