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The whole Dallay Cowboys team took knee, Jerry Jones too!
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:42pm
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/sports/football/cowboys-cardinals-anthem-protest.html

Out on the field!

A day after most of the N.F.L. engaged in at least some form of demonstration during the playing of the national anthem, the Dallas Cowboys linked arms in the middle of the University of Phoenix Stadium field in Glendale, Ariz., and collectively took a knee before the song was played. The Arizona Cardinals linked arms in the end zone with some military personnel in a show of unity.

By the time the pop star Jordin Sparks began singing the song, the Cowboys, who were joined in kneeling by the team’s owner, Jerry Jones, had moved to the sideline, linking arms while standing. The crowd, which had booed as the visiting Cowboys were kneeling, let out some loud cheers at various points during the song.

The demonstration before ESPN’s broadcast of “Monday Night Football” showed that the league was continuing to show solidarity in the wake of comments by President Trump, at a political rally in Alabama and in posts to Twitter, about how any players that kneel or sit during the anthem should be fired. The situation has escalated in recent days, including Mr. Trump retweeting posts calling for a boycott of the N.F.L.

Most of the league’s owners have supported their players’ exercising of their First Amendment rights, either through statements to the news media or by standing with the players on the field during the playing of the song. Mr. Jones was the first owner to kneel with his players.

Various players addressed the protests on Monday, the most prominent being New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, who explained his rationale for locking arms with a teammate.

“If you don’t agree, that is fine,” Mr. Brady said in a radio interview. “You can voice your disagreement, I think that is great. It’s part of our democracy. As long as it is done in a peaceful, respectful way, that is what our country has been all about.”

One of the few players to express regret for Sunday’s actions was Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who along with all but one of his teammates remained out of sight in the tunnel during the playing of the anthem at Soldier Field in Chicago. The Steelers were the first of three teams on Sunday to remain off the field during the anthem rather than having players kneel, sit or lock arms.

“The idea was to be unified as a team when so much attention is paid to things dividing our country, but I wish we approached it differently,” Mr. Roethlisberger wrote in a statement posted to his personal website. “We did not want to appear divided on the sideline with some standing and some kneeling or sitting.”

Mr. Roethlisberger’s regret may be a result of a miscommunication that he claims led to his teammate, Alejandro Villanueva, being singled out as the only Steelers player who could be seen from the field. Mr. Roethlisberger and Mr. Villanueva said that the plan was for the team’s starting left tackle, a former Army Ranger who served in Afghanistan, to be joined by the team’s captains at the end of the tunnel, but that the plan fell through when a Bears flag being carried off the field got in their way. With some form of demonstration occurring at every game on Sunday and Monday, the question going forward is how much the protests will spill into next week and beyond. The first glimpse of what may happen will come on Thursday night when the Chicago Bears travel to Green Bay to face the Packers.

  • Trump Should Ignore the NFL PlayersMerlin, Sun Sep 24 2:43pm
    the way that Trump's myrmidons insist that White Supremacists should be ignored and their right to free speech respected.
    • Is this about the USFL?KenS, Wed Sep 27 3:33pm
      A week earlier, the issue was all but forgotten, but then Trump comes along and throws gasoline on the dying embers and starts an all out firestorm. Can it possibly be that he is still fuming over... more
    • Look who is kneeling nowJeeves, Tue Sep 26 2:33pm
      Attorney General Sessions visited Georgetown University Law Center to give a talk on, of all things, free speech. He was greeted by the faculty:... more
      • "Liberal colleges!" Pikes, Tue Sep 26 10:22pm
        Dayum Libruls Spreading like a California wildfire. This is beginning to take off like the Vietnam protests. Will it sustain? Certainly have a nixon in office.
    • The way I look at it...wondering, Tue Sep 26 2:23pm
      Kneeling during the National Anthem is not a display of disrespect for our flag or our country. I'd say it is more like a form of mourning, as with a flag at half mask, because of the inequality,... more
      • Interesting perspectivePikes, Tue Sep 26 8:01pm
        and one I share. You said it well.
      • That is grasping for a straw.PH👁EY, Tue Sep 26 3:40pm
        Maybe while they are down there...... but I digress. Perhaps they are seeking night hood? Police brutality is an issue, including over kill with those ridiculous guns that are on hair trigger and... more
      • Eric Reid: Why Colin Kaepernick and I Decided to Take a Knee In early 2016, I began paying attention to reports about the incredible number of unarmed black people being killed by the police. The... more
    • The whole Dallay Cowboys team took knee, Jerry Jones too! — Pikes, Mon Sep 25 9:42pm
      • Take a knee as a team to show unity BEFORE the flag gets rolled out and BEFORE the anthem gets played. Then stand and link arms while the flag is on the field and the anthem is being played to show... more
        • to F off. Seems you miseed that in your copy and paste crocodile tears over the Flag.
        • flag. Kneeling on one knee is and always has actually a sign of deep respect. That's why it was the chosen move that began this whole brouhaha. That so many have taken it to mean something other than ... more
          • Taking a knee has its place. But...SES, Tue Sep 26 4:28pm
            ...when protocol specifically states that people should STAND during the playing of the National Anthem, taking a knee instead most certainly IS being disrespectful. Especially when the person doing... more
          • Trumpeons want it to be Pikes, Tue Sep 26 11:59am
            what they want it to be, because without that, they have nothing. They're showing they don't want a kneel at any time because such will be interpreted as disrespecting the flag, or patriotism, or... more
        • After the event,Pikes, Tue Sep 26 10:51am
          Trumpeon disparagement and ridicule continued on social media unaffected and unchanged. Trump tweeted, "The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its... more
      • The solution? Give the anthem the boot!pH🙄🙄EY, Mon Sep 25 10:39pm
        The. There will be nothing to knee. Problem solved.
        • You know why. Junk music.
          • Hear, hear!Poppet, Tue Sep 26 12:24pm
            Terrible choice of anthem. A nation should have a national anthem that the average non-musician has at least some chance of singing well enough to avoid collecting grimaces and thrown objects. The... more
            • Kate Smith did an admirable job. (nm)PH🌖🏔, Tue Sep 26 4:00pm
              • Her tour de force wasPikes, Tue Sep 26 8:09pm
                Irving Berlin's God Bless America. One needs to be drunk to sing the Star Spangled Banner. Jose can you see. It's a drinking song to begin with, about the virtues of drunkenness. The drunker the... more
                • Yes, that WAS her signature son.PH🙄🙄EY, Tue Sep 26 10:12pm
                  I was a kid of course but I well remember the Kate Smith TV show. Poor thing. When she passed on there seemed to be confusion about who had legal authority over her body. That is how I recall the... more
    • A few things being missed byRobert, Mon Sep 25 9:43am
      ALL parties (Trump, players, and racists) here. Yes, free speech should absolutely be respected , but those practicing it can be VERY dis respectful. There are also consequences to practicing this... more
      • Interesting ideas, for sure!Sia☺giah, Mon Sep 25 1:18pm
        It would be interesting to see if the children returning would wind up in foster care after their parents tried to "beat their new views out of them". Children have long waged "wars" against their... more
        • Yes, racism can be mitigated.PH👀EY, Mon Sep 25 2:42pm
          But not entirely, if for no other reason than different ethic pigmentation, or lack thereof, is noticeable. And because it is, that makes us different to one another. That difference is a segue into... more
      • Empowered by freedom of speech in the First Amendment? We may or may not agree with the protesters. It was numbered first because it was considered most important. It is the key which enables and... more
        • That includes the ramifications of exercising one's freedom of speech. We are guaranteed that our government CANNOT punish us for exercising our right to free speech, guaranteeing us freedom from... more
          • Personal responsibilityPikes, Mon Sep 25 3:36pm
            I wrote that position many times. Why does this national anthem begin games? It's the prelude to the entertainment. It is ownership using as political statement for emotional response from fans. I... more
          • to punish them in any way... A gov't representative may offer an opinion that the EMPLOYER should or should not fire someone, but it is still 100% up to the employer... And, certainly exercising ones ... more
            • Trump's Threats Are a PunishmentMeerlin, Mon Sep 25 2:38pm
              whether or not any players, announcer, etc. is fired, games are boycotted, etc., because the threat alone injures the victim of the threat. Trump is the one showing disrespect for the Constitution,... more
              • Not a threat...Sprout, Mon Sep 25 2:54pm
                If I tell everyone I think you are a jerk, that is not a threat. If others believe me and stop hanging out with you, that doesn't make me telling folks you are a jerk into a threat. If you are a... more
                • You Are Not the POTUS of the USAMerlin, Mon Sep 25 3:02pm
                  who is infamous for threatening and making good on his threats.
                  • So what?Sprout, Mon Sep 25 3:05pm
                    Are you claiming that the POTUS has the actual authority to fire a professional athlete? Of course not. Therefore saying that such a person SHOULD be fire is NOT actually a threat TO fire them. No... more
                    • 18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch (a) Whoever, being a... more
                      • The NFL rule book:PH👻👻EY, Wed Sep 27 2:53pm
                        http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/09/26/nfl-rules-require-players-to-stand-for ...
                      • So, what obligation or evenSprout, Mon Sep 25 4:09pm
                        perception of obligation does the team have to fire an employee based on the opinion on the POTUS that the employees actions warrant firing? What official act was the POTUS threatening to take, or... more
                        • We're this the 1960s and 70s, PH👻👻EY, Mon Sep 25 7:12pm
                          I could get behind these protests. But, these black players are hardly in a position to complain. They are entertainers, and I am not amused. Police training reform world be a better challenge. How... more
                        • as the same kind of warning, with real teeth. So there you have someone acting on the "president's" lead.
                          • (the official act of another. Res ipsa loquitur, as they used to say on the Appian Way.
                            • DistractionPikes, Thu Sep 28 1:40am
                              Page out of Reagan's book. USSR shoots down Korean passenger jet with Americans on board, tension is so thick it can be knife cut, and James Watt announced the ethnic make up of his cabinet.... more
                            • Again... what authority does he have thatSprout, Mon Sep 25 4:30pm
                              would allow him to influence? What authority do you have to allow you to influence the manager into firing the employee? Or are you suggesting that a federal official may not express dissatisfaction... more
                              • Read the LawMerlin, Mon Sep 25 5:08pm
                                18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch (a) Whoever, being a... more