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Okay, who ARE "they?" (nm)
Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:48am
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The Protest — Amadeus, Tue Sep 26 4:43pm

I am stunned at the amount of confusion I see concerning the protests happening at sporting events (and now spreading). Let me enlighten those who are confused. The purpose of the protest is to draw... more

Pat Tillman's widow has a few things to say to Trump. — HeavyHemi, Fri Sep 29 7:04pm

"As a football player and soldier, Pat inspired countless Americans to unify," Marie said. "It is my hope that his memory should always remind people that we must come together." "Pat's service,... more
Pat Tillman was offed by "friendly fire." — PH🙄🙄EY, Sat Sep 30 8:33am

The Pentagon and politics sought to cover that up. Further, there remains questions about just how "friendly" was the shot that removed him from his complaints about what is going on in Afghanistan.... more
It's all relative I suppose — Ex-News Junkie, Wed Sep 27 9:15pm

From where I stand, the protesters look like riffraff, vandals, violent, petty crooks. I don't blame the cops for wearing body cams. I would too. Obvious question: Why do they cover their faces with... more
Are You Conflating The Anthem Protest With Antifa? (nm) — Amadeus, Thu Sep 28 10:39am

Yes. They are all the same rabble. — Ex-News Junkie, Thu Sep 28 5:29pm

Occupy. Black Lives Matter. Arab Spring. Antifa. They fly a different banner from time to time. You will see them join together at the same "protests" as they call them - riots as I call them. They... more
Yes, and these are the same troublemakers — PH💀💀EY, Sat Sep 30 8:44am

who are seeking to erase the old Confederacy from memory. When I realized these bastards were aiming to tear down those beautiful monuments on Monument Avenue in Richmond, that is when it dawned on... more
Then Trump is in fact a racist and white supremacist. — HeavHemi, Thu Sep 28 6:31pm

Since we can put widely disparate groups in a lump, right?
They are not widely disparate groups — Ex-News Junkie, Thu Sep 28 8:41pm

They are the same people. They just fly a different banner depending on the occasion.
So then, Trump flies the White Supremacist Flag. — HeavyHemi, Thu Sep 28 8:47pm

I'm not sure how you believe broad brushing disparate groups again, is furthering your point. Trump's ilk, the White Nationalists are pretty sharply defined while BLM has a very wide swath of... more
Self-hating whites? (nm) — PH👻👻EY, Fri Sep 29 9:08am

HH is attempting to show the pure idiocy of lumping entire — Sia☺giah, Fri Sep 29 1:48pm

groups of people with unrelated goals & behavior into ONE group as if that's valid.
Well, as you say, it was an attempt. — PH👀EY, Sun Oct 1 9:24am

And I do appreciate you keeping me clear headed. Especially with his posts. I suppose eventually a cadence will set in and my understanding of what he is trying to attempt will become more... more
I've seen the so-called protests — Ex-News Junkie, Fri Sep 29 5:07pm

I've seen the supposedly unrelated banners and flags all carried by the same group of people rioting (vandalizing, blocking traffic, assaulting bystanders,etc) in the streets.
Yes, one big lump! (nm) — PH👁👁EY, Sun Oct 1 9:25am

Low lifes! (nm) — PH💀💀EY, Sat Sep 30 8:46am

Oh I see, — PH👻👻EY, Thu Sep 28 6:39pm

Trump the lump. That is kinder than most of your in invictives.
Spot on. Millions refuse to hear that because the prefer — Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 27 7:08pm

tRUMP's version for some inexplicable reason. Oh....... wait.... Never mind. The reason is crystal clear.
But, — et, Wed Sep 27 9:47am

Don't the flag represent the people or this nation? And since the flag represents the people of this nation, the protest is a disrespect of/to the people of this nation. Those here, those that were,... more
What's worse? Being insulted by a protest, or — Trudy , Sat Sep 30 11:54pm

being killed by a cop? Minorities are disproportionately the victims of police brutality. All of us are subject to police bullying. Police have no accountability in the courts. There has to be a way... more
Yes, police brutality is an issue, not only for — PH💀💀EY, Sun Oct 1 9:34am

ghetto blacks but for whites who too are being shot dead in record numbers. Twice as many whites are killed by cops than blacks. However blacks commit a disproportionate number of crimes and thus... more
The personal and public police issue — Pikes, Sun Oct 1 12:41pm

Many people have stressful, negative encounters with police. I had a virtually clean driving record from first license until just a few years ago. Virtually because the only ticket I ever received... more
Your experiences parallel mine. — PH💀💀EY, Mon Oct 2 8:32am

The one good experience I had was I was speeding just a little over 70. The officer who pulled me over was very polite. AND told me he was going to write the ticket but would show my speed at less... more
Don't blame the killing of unarmed black people — Trudy , Sun Oct 1 11:03am

at a disproportionate rate on crime rates. Has nothing to do with the crime rate when no crime has been committed. It's about cops being trained to be fearful and have an attitude that they are not... more
It is obvious racism is in the mix. — PH💀💀EY, Mon Oct 2 8:35am

One might argue it's a culture clash.
Culture clash? — Trudy, Mon Oct 2 12:16pm

Between white privilege and the reality that POC live with, maybe. The fear and loathing of "others" is the reason some white people can't acknowledge racism. Fear of becoming a minority in "their... more
I know what you mean. — PH👀EY, Thu Sep 28 3:52pm

Taking a knee? I can just hear Queen Liz telling the beknighting candidate to "take a knee for me and thee" and fall on this sword😀
You Miss The Point... — Amadeus, Wed Sep 27 11:29am

Rosa Parks wasn't disrespecting buses. These protesters aren't disrespecting flags, the anthem, the country, apple pie, puppies, or America. Amadeus
Do you remember when Kaepernick started kneeling? — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 10:10am

When Kaepernick began his protest, he sat during the anthem. Now he kneels. Do you remember why he changed? In case you don't:... more
Did you see his socks? — PH👀EY, Thu Sep 28 3:47pm

I want a pair.
Now lets talk about that flag — et, Wed Sep 27 9:56am

That represented a fleet load of millions of we peoples anciestors who also once lived here? That fought to keep people you folks hate out of office and from ever having such power over the nation?... more
The first thing to note is that nowhere is there any mention — Merlin, Wed Sep 27 10:03am

of disrespect toward the nation, the flag, or the military. So that has no place in a discussion about the protest.
The players disrespect their contracts by disrespecting — PH🙄🙄EY, Wed Sep 27 3:00pm

their rule book. They know they are being in contempt.
Oh, waaaaa — Trudy, Sun Oct 1 11:08am

Disrespecting a rule book is so much worse than being gunned down for no reason. After all, the Pentagon paid to have that rule in the book, and that's why it's disrespectful to the flag, the... more
Your point is well taken. — PH👏🏾👏🏾EY, Mon Oct 2 8:42am

Yes, the leagues are remunerated via tax dollars to put on the patriotic fervor. These players are not being murdered. Though records show many of them have some police records beyond trite. Perhaps... more
All cops are blue. — Trudy, Mon Oct 2 12:10pm

If officers were members of the community they patrol, and knew the citizens, and were known by them, they might not be such bullies. The players are not claiming to be protesting because they have... more
So WHY are team owners kneeling WITH them? (nm) — Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 27 11:48pm

They think it's a prayer service before the game? — PH👀EY, Thu Sep 28 6:58pm

I suppose it's a form of appeasing their players. I think money is first and foremost? Maybe they agree with the beef. Pressure. Solidarity. Who knows. I don't think it signifies anything much except ... more
Beauty, or ugliness, is in the eye of the beholder... — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 10:19am

IMO you can't have it both ways... If the football player is the only one who gets to decide who his actions are allowed to feel disrespected, then the redneck is the only one who gets to decide who... more
RIF. Try it sometime. (nm) — Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 27 11:49pm

Trump wants respect shown his way. — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 10:46am

Some pray with folded hands. Some hold hands in their laps. Other reach upward. Some bow their heads, and others lift theirs. Some close their eyes and others look toward heaven. Some sit. Others... more
So the guy putting a Confederate flag on his — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 11:53am

truck gets to explain it as historical and you won't try and call it disrespectful?
What is wrong with flying — PH🙄🙄EY, Wed Sep 27 2:40pm

the stars and bars? The flag makers can't keep up with the orders.
Your angle — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 12:04pm

There are numerous examples of the Confederate flag — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 12:02pm

being used as a non-historic racist symbol. E.g., Charlottesville: Can you cite examples of kneeling during the national anthem being done explicitly as an act of disrespect towards the country?... more
The question stands? Who gets to determine — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 12:43pm

what a given act or symbol means? In the case of the Confederate flag, you are making the case that those OBSERVING the symbol or act make the determination as to its meaning. Yet, in the case of... more
Whoever has a gun, most likely. (nm) — OH👁EY, Wed Sep 27 3:03pm

The actor determines the intended meaning — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 12:56pm

" In the case of the Confederate flag, you are making the case that those OBSERVING the symbol or act make the determination as to its meaning. " No, the Charlottesville Nazis were explicit in... more
Let's be clear about Charlottesville — PH💀💀EY, Fri Sep 29 9:06am

It was a psyops performance led by Spencer and or Kessler. They are government spooks, agent provocateurs. Their backgrounds do not indicate either of them is a white supremacist. And regarding the... more
For What It's Worth — Jeeves, Fri Sep 29 9:14am

" For What It's Worth " by Buffalo Springfield There's something happening here But what it is ain't exactly clear There's a man with a gun over there Telling me I got to beware I think it's time we... more
Appropo! (nm) — PH👏🏾👏🏾EY, Sat Sep 30 8:47am

Again, and again, and again. — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 1:02pm

In spite of the explanations, those who oppose claim that ANY application of the confederate battle flag is offensive. They have a right to that opinion He changed his display in a manner that HE... more
Answered and answered and answered — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 1:14pm

Can't you read? " In spite of the explanations, those who oppose claim that ANY application of the confederate battle flag is offensive. They have a right to that opinion " Yeah, that's what I said.... more
This is his act. If he had not done this dozens of times... — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 1:17pm

I might just pass it off as confusion. When it is repeated misrepresentations of what has been clearly explained and explained repeatedly, it then becomes trolling for attention.
It is possible that he simply does not "get it" — Sia☺giah, Wed Sep 27 11:58pm

or get ANY of the stuff we discuss on the board... But more likely that he's just trolling because he enjoys nitpicking at nothing to see how long he'll get some bites on his bait.
He is a deep thinker. — PH👀EY, Wed Sep 27 3:04pm

Unlike your inability.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting... — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 1:10pm

a different result. Your question is absurd and you know it is absurd. You have the right to call it whatever you want, that's it. It doesn't change the actor's reasoning for doing it. Why do you... more
The person demonstrating. Why is this even a question? — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 12:48pm

You're of course entitled to call them a liar and say that YOUR reasons are why they are protesting. But, that would be silly. Here again you're stuck in your own loop of 'it's all about Spout and... more
Not try applying that concept to — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 12:55pm

demonstrators you don't agree with.
He won't. He can't. He refuses. — PH🙄🙄EY, Wed Sep 27 3:09pm

But is your reasoning circular? Or a dead end. Where does your conception leave Hemi? In a quandry. We do not need quandry.
Weird..you actually think you control what I do. — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 6:44pm

Seems to be the other way around as much as you obsess over every post I make...kinda stalkerish.
The response was to potato sprout, — PH🙄🙄EY, Wed Sep 27 9:24pm

My response was not addressing you per se. So who is the stalker. No matter.
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You mean like you stalking beind a proxy. — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 11:50pm

You always miss there is a subject being discussed, like there is with Spout. You're just mad he's be ridiculed for a dumb argument. You've always been jealous of your betters. Now get back to... more
One assumes you are addressing this one? — PH🙄🙄EY, Thu Sep 28 2:54pm

Haha. Do I have any "betters?" Well some are prettier, some are brighter, some are stronger, some are more sane, some are kinder and gentler, and some are wiser. But none of these describes you.... more
Strange... — HeavyHemi, Thu Sep 28 3:06pm

Are you okay? Why would you address a post that has nothing to with you as if it had anything to do with you. Then INVENT that I'm trying to find out stuff about you? Contrarian...other names you've... more
Do what! — PH🙄🙄EY, Fri Sep 29 8:51am

Does a post have to make sense if one responds to a non-sensical post. Your communication skill are in question. Furthermore, you try drinking with one hand and typing with your middle finger.
"so what" (nm) — Make that , Fri Sep 29 8:52am

Again what I think, doesn't matter to THEM. Good lawd... — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 1:11pm

What concept? That you YOU believe changes THIER reason for protesting? I have to believe you're not this dumb in repeating the same mistake over and over...and it's just for the attention.
Now try applying... (nm) — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 12:55pm

Some fly another battle flag on their truck — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 12:08pm

Haha😅😅 (nm) — PH😃😃EY, Wed Sep 27 2:56pm

When Feeling Disrespected Is Based Upon Misunderstanding — Merlin, Wed Sep 27 10:24am

then that misunderstanding needs to be rectified before further discussion.
Good point — Robert, Wed Sep 27 11:33am

Maybe the first step to understanding would be to not use the playing of the NATIONAL ANTHEM to protest during something the NATION, the MILITARY, the POLICE, AND for the most part, the AUDIENCE... more
Well, There's Your Problem... — Amadeus, Wed Sep 27 2:15pm

Sacred? The anthem isn't sacred. Nor is the flag. Nor the Constitution. That's entirely the wrong attitude and focus. Our rights and freedoms. Now those , good Sir Robert, those are sacred. Amadeus
Admittedly, I have several problems- — Robert, Thu Sep 28 9:03am

"attitude and focus" are not often among them. Sometimes for sure, but not often. "Sacred" per Websters: That which is respected; venerable . Not understanding that the flag, anthem, and Constitution ... more
What Is And What Is Not... — Amadeus, Thu Sep 28 10:51am

The flag can be grabbed by a madman, waved about in support of whatever cause he cherishes, claimed and sullied. It has happened before, it will happen again. Likewise the others. Even the written... more
Divisiveness — Robert, Thu Sep 28 11:38am

is the steroidal drug of choice of weakness and evil. Unity is the antidote. When the weakness you reference surfaces, and we agree that it has, it's critical to prescribe the correct medication.... more
Unity For The Sake Of Unity... — Amadeus, Sat Sep 30 12:52am

...is no medicine. It's an intoxicant. The ideal and idea behind the establishment clause is certainly not obsolete. The language of the establishment clause is, however, archaic. Better to hold the... more
Your last sentence — Robert, Sat Sep 30 10:34am

has nothing whatsoever to do with my posts on kneelers. As for your "unity for the sake of unity"----why bring up such a empty, non related to my posts, statement? Who on here has posted such a... more
Whenever Someone Suggests... — Amadeus, Sat Sep 30 12:49pm

...that the symbols deserve veneration, but somehow, we can continue suffering while the ideas and ideals are swept under the rug... then they are putting the symbols ahead of the ideas and ideals.... more
Who is suggesting such? — Robert, Sun Oct 1 8:21am

"continue suffering....swept under the rug"--- hasn't been said on here and not even by our clueless President. Looks like, feels like, smells like..........uh..........straw.
Seriously? — Amadeus, Sun Oct 1 7:06pm

No, those words weren't used. The sentiment, however, is loud and clear. Amadeus
Too Late Now. What is Done is Done. — Merlin, Wed Sep 27 11:49am

The misunderstanding has been explained. With those who refuse to understand, further productive discussion is fruitless.
Thousandsss in Dallas didn't get the memo — Robert, Wed Sep 27 12:27pm

and I think you realize that millions of others didn't either.
They Should Inform Themselves — Merlin, Wed Sep 27 1:05pm

It's been all over the news and internet.
This woman may be "informed". — Robert, Thu Sep 28 10:59am

Plus she's got a LOT more skin in the game than most here or elsewhere. http://start.att.net/news/read/category/News/article/fox_news-american_snipers_wife_taya_kyle_an_open_letter_to-rfoxnews If the ... more
'Twould If They Did So NOW I Think — Merlin, Thu Sep 28 12:54pm

YES!!! THIS is how to do it. — Robert, Fri Sep 29 8:02am

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/28/16381646/packers-fans-linking-arms-national-anthem
Good! — PH👏🏾👏🏾EY, Fri Sep 29 8:33am

Though I would prefer this hard to yodel anthem be replaced with Row Row Row Your Boat.
BEFORE as well---if correctly advertised. (nm) — Robert, Thu Sep 28 1:00pm

No she doesn't. Her voice is not worth more.. — HeavyHemi, Thu Sep 28 12:49pm

than mine or yours or Trump's. That is extremely wrong.
Who said it was worth more? — Robert, Thu Sep 28 12:53pm

Informed/= worth more. I said she had more skin in the game in terms of being sensitive to the Anthem, and she does.
"she's got a LOT more skin in the game than most here .." — HeavyHemi, Thu Sep 28 2:56pm

She doesn't have any more skin in the game that I do or anyone else. And her reasons for 'being more sensitive' are nor more valid that mine or Trump's. Her opinion carries the same weight as a... more
Are you sober? — Robert, Thu Sep 28 8:49pm

Do you even know what "skin in game" means? Did you lose your spouse while they were supporting what the anthem stands for? If you did, I'll stand down. Now answer my question if you have the guts to ... more
So her opinion means more because? — HeavyHemi, Thu Sep 28 10:49pm

I've lost friends. It is completely irrelevant to the facts of the issue. Her OPINION of what they are doing matters just as much as yours or mine. Her husband wasn't killed in the line of duty... more
Sleep it off and you won't be so slow to comprehend. — Robert, Fri Sep 29 8:01am

She-nor-I-is-saying-her-opinion-is-more-important. That's twice now---get it? If you don't get the heightened sensitivity she has due to the loss of her husband, I can't help you. Your post prior to... more
Illogical gibberish — Robert, Fri Sep 29 1:51pm

Her husbands death, considering his career, makes her a small subset of: wives in general, military wives, husbands, military husbands, former military personell, members of this board, and American... more
Yes, you are emotional and illogical. — HeavyHemi, Fri Sep 29 2:01pm

Yes, you have explained that you believe her opinion is more valuable and we should listen because? Then in the next breath you deny it. Then you make make immature insults. I disagree and have... more
Get some help man. — Robert, Fri Sep 29 2:12pm

I suspect anyone on here, whether they agree with me currently/ historically or not, will read this thread exchange and explain to you that I have never said her opinion is more important than anyone ... more
Then there is no reason for you to have used her. — HeavyHemi, Fri Sep 29 2:50pm

And you ARE explicitly arguing that her opinion IS more important because of her 'sensitivity'. I'll let others speak for themselves, so far not a one has taken your side...why is that? Again, it is... more
U R really reaching Hemi. — Robert, Fri Sep 29 3:57pm

Maybe it would help you to go back to the "informed" exchange with Merlin and I. I'm not explicitly or inherently claiming her opinion is more important. I've explained what I claim more than enuf... more
Again, you believe because of her experience... — HeavyHemi, Fri Sep 29 4:35pm

her "skin in the game" that she is a more credible voice...more credible than most here was how you put it. You're basically using every obfuscating tactic to avoid admitting something so blatantly... more
What I actually posted is — Robert, Sat Sep 30 10:55am

based on her loss, she would likely be more sensitive to a real or perceived slight to the anthem. What you said I said, was she was more credible (more important opinion)---this is what most would... more
Thanks for reiterating why you cited her as an authority. — HeavyHemi, Sat Sep 30 12:03pm

Because of her loss and "sensitivity" you believe she is a more credible. You keep OMMITING the last part. Your reasons for using her. You just explained my argument again. I just used Mrs Tillman in ... more
I get she has 'sensitivity' as do thousands of wives. — HeavyHemi, Fri Sep 29 11:37am

As retired military, I'd argue I have at least as much 'skin'. I am assuming you have NO military experience? So maybe you don't understand my point. So, again why are you holding her out ie: "Plus... more
Yet when conservative folks explain the — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 11:51am

meaning behind their symbols and symbolic acts, the liberal protestors demand to use their own meanings. Think Confederate flag.
Explaining The Obvious. Again. — Amadeus, Wed Sep 27 2:36pm

When a protester kneels during the anthem, there is no disrespect of the anthem, flag, America, etc. Think of when Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus. Was there disrespect shown toward... more
And what US code states that — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 3:22pm

the confederate battle flag is racist? You are making the case that the actor determines his own meaning in one case, and the observer determines the meaning in the other. Which is exactly my point.
No, I Am Not... — Amadeus, Wed Sep 27 3:25pm

The symbolism for the Confederate flag is established. It has been for some time. The meaning of not participating in the anthem or in the pledge varies based on the protest involved. By definition.... more
United States Flag Code — SES, Wed Sep 27 2:44pm

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the national flag of the United States of America. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et ... more
About the Flag Code — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 6:15pm

The Code also mentions a few other things about what you should and shouldn't do. See: https://twitter.com/i/moments/911872051731767296
Your angle is — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 3:36pm

The Supreme Court Has Already Held... — Amadeus, Wed Sep 27 3:23pm

...that our freedom of speech supersedes the flag code. So, no, it is NOT required by law. It was, at one point. But that was an ill-advised and poorly conceived law. Amadeus
Which is yet another case of "Legislating from the bench". — SES, Wed Sep 27 4:49pm

It is still Federal Law. Claiming that it isn't is incorrect.
No, it's Constitutionally mandated judicial review — Jeeves, Fri Sep 29 12:23pm

" It is still Federal Law. " Not if the court says it isn't. I refer you to Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 78 : The complete independence of the courts of justice is peculiarly essential in a limited ... more
I Claimed... — Amadeus, Wed Sep 27 4:57pm

...that it is not required by law. And it is not, as per the Supreme Court. Keep up. :D Amadeus
You Still Misunderstand, There Is No Conflict of Meanings (nm) — Merlin, Wed Sep 27 1:14pm

Think this — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 12:10pm

The question stands... — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 12:45pm

I'll wait, but won't hold my breath.
No, the question kneels — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 3:33pm

You don't get to make the rules. Neither does Trump.
And niether does Kapernick, nor you... — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 3:50pm

None of you get to pick and choose what behavior of an athlete or other protestor offends his/her customers/fans.
If something I do offends my "fans" — Pikes, Wed Sep 27 4:00pm

that's their problem. It's not my intent, nor in my heart. I don't change my behavior to accommodate their narrow rigidity. I never had to. However, I have another salute for Trump.
Ssme thing with millions — et, Wed Sep 27 4:38pm

with us southerners. Not our intent nor in our heart to offend. Because of a few a-holes that have been or being disrespectful of the flag; nor will we change ours. :) The ignorance is enough to... more
Oh I think you do that a lot... — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 12:51pm

NTR. (nm) — Sprout, Wed Sep 27 12:56pm

Well? You're not holdin your breath in frusteration... — HeavyHemi, Wed Sep 27 1:15pm

because people just can't seem to buy into your silly argument that what OTHER PEOPLE think about another persons PERSONAL reasons for protesting somehow redefine it? That's what you an your ilk of... more
Well excuse me (nm) — et, Wed Sep 27 10:09am

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 9:16am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw We have been here before. If we don't solve it now, we will be here again. The Revolution Will Be Live.
No, because it will be on our iPhones. — PH💻🖥EY, Wed Sep 27 9:23am

As it is we are already well into Bible prophecy. We shall ( and are) bowing down and worshipping the image that speaks. Just look around. All heads are bowed over the cell phones, worshipping our... more
You missed the point of the poem — Jeeves, Wed Sep 27 11:13am

You can't have a revolution by watching media. You must be a participant. The Revolution Will Be Live.
I guess I did. What's new? (nm) — PH🙄🙄EY, Wed Sep 27 2:41pm

Okay, who ARE "they?" (nm) — PH👁EY, Wed Sep 27 8:48am
Well said (nm) — Pikes, Tue Sep 26 8:14pm

Most excellent. I'm stealing this to share elsewhere. (nm) — Trudy, Tue Sep 26 5:30pm

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