Yikes. It does sound like bacon frying!
Mon Oct 9, 2017 4:52pm

This has been one of my favorites for some of the amazing scenery that I got to see, detailed down below.

At the same time as asking questions about what I was seeing, I decided to give you a "blow by blow" view into my thoughts as I was watching it so you can have direct feedback to it, pretty much scene by scene, so you can tell if what you were trying to say was "heard" and understood. Take it only for what that's worth to you. Please don't take ANY offense if anything seems critical, as NO offense is intended --- I am, by NO means an expert of ANY kind of mountains, video creation, or scenery videos --- I am nothing more than just a viewer with reactions to share --- Please DO enjoy the KUDOS & my obvious enjoyment of things seen as they ARE intended to be taken as KUDOS and PRAISE for your work. :-)

Okay, here goes:

The static electricity we heard in the opening scene, set the stage for an exciting journey up the mountain, which was what I was anticipating seeing. When you switched scenes to go to the top of a ridge or mountain but then scrolled down the hillside, I expected to see something at the bottom, like someone in trouble, a grizzly bear, or something of significance to clue me as to what was going to happen on the mountain sometime later on. Something that I'd be able to link back to.

What was that town built right into the mountain pass at the 3 minute mark and again at 3:27 ?? I've never seen anything like that !! So weird but so fascinating to me. The closest I've ever been to anything like that is deep in the white mountains, where towns in mini valleys are surrounded by gigantic mountains that effectively isolate them from everything else. Kinda like where I am, in a little valley between large hills and small mountains - but quite a bit south of THE White Mountains. I love the atmosphere of the mountainous regions, but understand the vast difference in altitudes between our small mountains and yours.

OMG, I LOVED the next part !! WHAT is that rock formation stuff starting at the 3:12 minute mark - 3:25? WOWZA. Unique and so cool !! Was there water involved in its formation ?? or was it carved by long ago native Americans ?? Or caused by natural wind forces ?? Or something else I'd never imagine ?? Do tell !! It would be nice to know what they are, how they got there, and what they have to do with the story of the mountain ?? They were terrific and I enjoyed seeing them very much !!

At the same time, WHY did you go back to the town again right after those weird but truly wonderful formations? What do they have to do with one another ?? I also did not get why the focus on the town to begin with (is it where all climbs begin for that mountain ?? )

What was the significance of the zooming in to the right hand side of the scene on the cars and a store when you came back to it at 3:27ish ? It zoomed in and then scooted away again without any apparent explanation or understanding offered ?? I totally missed whatever it was zoomed in for in the story in spite of watching the segment twice again to see what it might be supposed to mean to the trip up or the story of the mountain ?? I just didn't get it, and most likely others won't either, so maybe spell it out more what the pretty cool town, the weird sand formations, and then the specific zoom in were supposed to convey to the story of the mountain ??

How did we get to the area that we saw next with all the trees, expanse of land, and views of heights ?? Is that the bottom of the mountain, right after leaving the town area and beginning the climb??

YIKES !! At 4:08, did you actually capture that grizzly naturally at the peak of what we were looking at just prior to the scene change of the grizzly running up and over the edge ?? Was he behind you ?? Following you or threatening you somehow ?? Were you trying to tell your friend, Ed's, story there ?? Or did you splice in video from elsewhere & another time to make the point about the grizzly being so rare there nowadays ??

I'd have liked to see the climb up to the area where the grizzly bear was spotted and it being our "reward" for watching the climb up. Also, the music dramatically leading us to where that bear suddenly came running up towards us over the hill. Something conveying the excitement, danger, and fear that Ed experienced when he was forced to kill that bear in self defense. Obviously, you don't have video of that happening, but you COULD add in either words describing it OR Ed telling the story quickly to convey the danger AND the terrible loss of the Colorado Grizzly bears to near extinction. That hits people and keeps them watching. The video makes it appear that bear are plentiful there, even as it's their last known location.

That was a lovely stream that scooted on by at the 4:30ish mark. I'd have liked to see the camera linger on that a bit longer. Winding, rushing streams of water is a visual treat. How does that stream impact the mountain or the story ?? Are there dozens of them ?? Does it feed a lake ?? Does wildlife up there depend on it for life ??

An observation made along the way so far: Even "just scenery stories" have to have "a beginning, middle, and an end" to follow along with to keep the interest of viewers, especially if the viewers are unfamiliar with where it is or what they are seeing. There MUST be a middle section showing the exciting, dangerous, or historically significant places of what we are watching so we are rewarded for our continued attention, so anything that conveys the dangerousness of where we are is always good. It's good to show a pix of those who are doing the climb periodically so that we can feel as if we are along for the climb and seeing what they are seeing as they go upwards rather than random scenes all over the place happening so we don't know if we are at the base, the top, or somewhere in the middle of the climb. It's too disjointed and somewhat frustrating otherwise. Remember, we are NOT mountain climbers so do NOT understand the visual importance of certain types of rock or cliffs or whatever it is that we are missing as a result. It is always welcome to know WHAT we are looking at in each scene and to understand what any zooming in on is supposed to show us or say as far as the story of the mountain.

Did the sequence of video follow the path one would encounter while climbing? I wasn't quite sure if it was just scattered views from the same or different places or intended as a visual trip up the mountain as we'd encounter ?? The intended story was a bit hard to follow for me in spite of enjoying the views immensely.

WOW, that was an incredible waterfall !! Where was it? I'd have liked to know what I was looking at there and where to find it. It was some powerful water falling !! Is THAT what that beautiful stream was leading us up to ?? If so, why not bring us directly to the waterfall instead of the mountain views that came in between them ?? If it wasn't the stream that feeds it, maybe show us the river flowing that DOES feed it and then the waterfall ?? Or the walk up to getting to see the waterfall ??

Also, the music is all we have to tell us that something is about to happen or something incredible about to be witnessed so we aren't lulled asleep by not having any "difficulty presented" to be overcome or any buildup of excitement for a breathtaking scene. However, almost every time the music built up to something, there was NO visual reward or emotional release that followed the music ?? The scene with its musical buildup simply ended without excitement, reward, or resolution ?? It made me feel like I'd been tricked or cheated out of a promised reward the music made to me. That sounds silly, probably, and I certainly don't know a damned thing about how music is written or chosen for a movie/video, but I DO know that the music sets the mood for the scene and that viewers are led through a movie &clued to what to expect by its music. So, it follows that if the music doesn't deliver the expectation in the scene, we feel a disconnect between them, no matter how good each one is individually.

Your filmography is outstanding. Your music skills even more so. Put together, I'm not always "feeling it" because I'm not getting what you're trying to tell me. I hope that doesn't offend you. I'm sure that it's "just me" because I don't know a damned thing about the mountains or what I'm seeing. I just think that if you know what those of us who are so unfamiliar are feeling, that you'll be able to add enough "clues", either in scenes or with words, to let us know. We cannot actually SEE nor FEEL the majesty of the mountains from your POV because we aren't there? We don't get to follow the climb up and the ultimate reward at the top. We can't actually SEE what you're seeing unless you SHOW it to us. We don't know what you went through to get there. There's no risky ridges or sheer cliffs that we see navigated or know have to be. Does that make sense?

For example: that incredible waterfall, that could have been the "reward" for following a steep or dangerous path to it was given without "earning it" and without the music building up to us getting to see it... Ditto the bear.

At 5:31, were those weird sand formations ?? Are they related to the cool ones we saw near the beginning ?? Are they just odd sand formations due to extreme weather ?? Are they ruins of ancient homes? One in the left of the screen looked like it had windows and a door?

Did you know the person standing at the top of that ridge in the shadows? Was that the TOP of the mountain at 6:04 where it levels off to walk flat ?? Or just a level spot part way up ?? Where is it along our journey to the top ?? It was a pretty cool visual. It could have been a "reward" for climbing up. LOL.

While watching the video, I kept wondering if all of the disjointed, seemingly random scenes had ANY relationship to one another or if they were, indeed randomly spliced together OR actually the sequence of pathway up ?? I've never been there, obviously, so I wondered if it was the journey up the mountain as I'd encounter it ?? or just snippets randomly put together to convey the mountain somehow ??

I've noticed that as a "style choice" in previous videos, of presenting a scene and then continuously going back to it. I am not at all sure whether that is a "regular, recognized format" for videos of places, but it reminds of a gardening rule that I learned the hard way when I was fairly new to gardening. I used to plant several amazing, but single specimens scattered randomly through the garden, hoping for a beautiful blend of colors and gorgeous visual treats. I'd always bought 3 or more of each one, figuring that they'd be able to "carry" their weight alone wherever I stuck them in between other beautiful specimens, equally scattered. I knew that I needed more than one to make an impact. What I didn't understand was WHY when I did that, there was still NO "impact" or visually pleasing patterns like others had and why the gorgeous flowers all seemed so BLAND when they were so beautiful all by themselves. Finally, an experienced gardener explained to me the "rule of threes" (Odd numbers, 3, 5, 7, etc.) in planting that I'd totally misunderstood. Instead of scattering the groups of "threes" (odd amounts), I was supposed to GROUP them so they were able to make their splash as the eye would travel over them and be able to actually SEE them in their splendor because the grouping was big enough to accomplish it. With exactly the same amount of plants, but placed together in groups, instead of randomly scattered about like a patchwork quilt, I got what I was looking for. The random scattering confused the brain because they eyes can't switch from each small plant so rapidly without it feeling UNPLEASANT and ANNOYING. I think that rule applies to everything visual. So, constantly repeating the same scene over and over again, without connecting them in some way that explains WHY they are split apart like that takes away from the video in the same way that it takes away from the garden. Does that make sense?

Quick example: splitting up the scenes from the town with seemingly random scenes in between. Without explaining what the random scenes have to do with the town that are split by them, it confuses the viewer and creates an expectation of explanation that isn't forthcoming BECAUSE there is NO specific significance intended to convey... and if there is, it's not being conveyed.

At 7:12, that pathway someone is walking on, is that a game trail or a people trail ?? Those tiny patches of snow in the distance were interesting.

Who is that at 7:30 walking across a weird peak ?? What is their story ?? Are we following them on their way up the mountain ??

At 7:47, why are there those tiny pockets of snow ?? Is it that cold up there ??

LIS above, every story has a beginning (set the stage to engage the viewer with the protagonist & the scene); a middle (where problems or adversity for the protagonist are presented); Climactic scene (problem/danger reaches a PEAK and its ultimate resolution/rescue); and the final conclusion where we learn a lesson, understand the purpose, or simply feel like we've had an interesting experience. I kept watching for the danger and then the first responders.

At approx. 9 minutes, because of the music, I thought the danger/problem was finally arriving. I expected the individual in the images to stumble or be attacked by a bear, or SOMETHING putting him into a pickle !! But, instead, it just panned off to another scene ??

Around 9:35, WHO were those weird people talking and the guy watching his hands like an infant just discovering his fingers ?? I couldn't understand them OR what they were so amazed and amused by ?? and then, they were just gone...

I figured I'd tell you that I was really enjoying the video at its start and anticipating something visually exiting, based on your lead up to it and the music. I was anticipating something related to what the "first responders" have to do to rescue people on that mountain, I kept looking for the danger spots & foolish people on them, the quick newspaper clippings of dead climbers, images of first responders going into action. Those things weren't there so I didn't connect it to honoring the first responders or even that the mountain IS dangerous at all.

All in all, bottom line, you composed stunning music that absolutely set the scene of a haunted, stark, and very lonely place. I felt the gloom & doom in it. You showed us the mountain with many scenes we'd never, ever see in our lifetimes and I appreciate that very much. I just think that I didn't get your intended message is all.

I hope that is helpful in some way? At least to let you into the mind of a viewer who knows NOTHING of what I was watching to have honest feedback on what was wonderful about it and what seemed to be missing. You work TOO hard and you're WICKED TALENTED, so it seems right to offer constructive criticism as well as praise.

My favorite part was those weird sand like, oddly shaped rock formations and I'm dying to know WHAT they are.

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