Good grief!
Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:52pm

You and Merlin actually got that from the linked article and Kelly's actual contribution at the press conference!? As you well know, I have a great deal of respect for your posts and as you equally well know, I have a great well of disdain for Trump. However this crap about Trump insulting this widow and the resulting journalistic (sic) collaboration claiming same, is a crystal clear example of looking through coke bottle thick Trump hate glasses.

Kelly did the exact opposite of labelling Trump a liar. Trump's proof was in fact, Kelly listening in on the call. Trump in no way whatsoever purposefully said anything to disrespect/insult this woman. The publicity seeking congresswoman likely explained to the poor young widow that he had done so, or when the widow acted insulted, the ditzheaded congresswoman probably said...yes he did, instead of explaining what he was trying to say. After listening to Kelley, the widow should now know better. Kelly's actual speech and the link above make it perfectly clear what happened. While I don't trust Trump at all, I do trust Kelley. Obviously, Trump when saying he didn't say such and such, he means he didn't mean anything disrespectful/insulting, but was complimenting the fallen soldier. Kelley says so.

Look, the media for sure and at least half the adult population in the Country (including me), hate the fact that he's President, but when we start seeing things that aren't so because we are looking through the coke bottle glasses....we ALL lose.


  • Gotcha... and I saw this tooSia☺giah, Thu Oct 19 10:54pm Where John Kelly all but outright says tRUMP is a LIAR.
    • Good grief! — Robert, Fri Oct 20 12:52pm
      • DENIED SAYING when he claimed that the words were appropriate in his viewpoint and that others said such things to him upon the loss of his son. That is how he confirmed that tRUMP lied. How you ask? ... more
        • Trumps use of the phrase and Kelly's confirmation of it's intent and appropriateness >>>>> stupid/dishonest Trump's denial of the words. So much so, that it is a very good example of the danger of... more
          • Lost in NoisePikes, Sun Oct 22 12:39pm
            Will make it harder- makes it harder to be aware when Trump does something really bad. So far, lots of symptoms. He might be disease, and he might be a carrier. He may be a symptom too, seen in a... more
          • I'd EXPECT him to charge a bloody fortune for it and limit who can have it, an expectation based on past experience. However, if he didn't do those things, but instead gave it free to folks OR he... more
            • Sia and PikesRobert, Sun Oct 22 6:43pm
              See what I mean!? Smart people---Perspective---Hate lens...... And this from someone who shares your disdain for the SOB!
              • My point is so much noise is made about Trump, really bad, despicable things he does may go unnoticed. I described a particular and vocal Trump constituency- certain televangelists, and said Trump is ... more
      • Two pointsJeeves, Fri Oct 20 1:36pm
        " Trump in no way whatsoever purposefully said anything to disrespect/insult this woman. " I don't think anyone is claiming that Trump was purposefully disrespectfugetting s so uhat he didn't realize ... more
        • It's not the use of the phrase.Robert, Sat Oct 21 3:07pm
          Kelly very very clearly and emotionally explained that the use of the phrase was appropriate/respectful/complimentary. The media and many many others are getting all hung up on the phrase instead of... more
          • The flippin' out is that he LIED about it.Sia☺giah, Sun Oct 22 9:43am
            The phrase itself was very poorly executed and flubbed, no doubt about that. However, I think that most people are uncomfortable with expressing condolences, especially when they live in a fishbowl,... more
          • Absolutely spot on.PH👍🏿👍🏿EY, Sat Oct 21 6:21pm
            And we are losing very quickly. If the empire cannot hold its center it certainly will not hang onto its global parameters. We will be brushed off like so much baggage. I fear the desperation of the... more
          • Battles need to be pickedPikes, Sat Oct 21 5:41pm
            and this isn't one of them. You can't just throw $h!t at Trump all the time. Like profanity, it loses impact. I rarely cuss, and when I do, the OP knows I'm really mad. It is reserved so its impact... more
            • He's like a toddler in a mud puddle, dumping mud on his own head.
            • Absolutely!PH👀EY, Sat Oct 21 6:30pm
              I like a bit of salacious commentary. And a dash of gossip, too. A good scandal now and again. Human nature. But the nonstop bashing of the Presidency is weakening the whole. It is a major... more
              • his never ending peccadillos, then there wouldn't be a problem, now would there? People are NOT just sitting outside the white house watching his every move to twist things around to attack him. He... more
                • Yes and no my friend.Robert, Mon Oct 23 2:09pm
                  No, people are definitely sitting around waiting to pounce on even the slightest mis-step---watched CNN/NBC/MSNBC lately!? Read the NYT lately!? Yes, unfortunately the dork does in fact supply a LOT... more
                  • He doesn't just supply...wondering, Mon Oct 23 5:22pm
                    a lot of material, and it isn't just mis-steps. He very often STARTS the media frenzy by being the first to pounce on the "slightest" of nonsense and then blowing everything all out of proportion.... more
      • Kelly (nm)Robert, Fri Oct 20 12:55pm
        • But he should have to peel potatoes for a month for participating hand in hand with Sanders in blowing smoke to obscure the truth. I've spent enough years in smoke filled rooms to see thru their... more
          • I am uncomfortable withPH👁👁EY, Sat Oct 21 7:13pm
            military generals in the civilian White House. Perhaps he lies in other venues and deserves no credit at all. Certainly he must know 9-11 is a inside job. He can clear his conscience if he has one by ... more
            • I toowondering, Sun Oct 22 11:36pm
              am uncomfortable with military generals in a civilian White House. I think there is a rule about military generals not being allowed to run for President or civilian political office until after a... more