John Kelly confirmed that tRUMP actually said what he
Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:35pm

DENIED SAYING when he claimed that the words were appropriate in his viewpoint and that others said such things to him upon the loss of his son. That is how he confirmed that tRUMP lied.

How you ask? Well, tRUMP repeatedly claimed that the FL congresswoman made up what she publicly claimed he'd said to the widow and he insisted that he did not use those words at all. But he DID use exactly those words and Kelly confirmed it in his defense of those words.

As for the rest of it:

I'm not arguing over whether he insulted her or not, SHE is the only one who can decide if she did or didn't FEEL insulted. Given that it's about HER feelings, none of us can declare that what he said was or was not insulting. However, that his words, however well intentioned they could have been, LANDED BADLY and upset the family. The APPROPRIATE RESPONSE was for tRUMP to apologize and offer his sincere condolences or to simply STFU. HE blew this whole thing up.

  • Good grief!Robert, Fri Oct 20 12:52pm
    You and Merlin actually got that from the linked article and Kelly's actual contribution at the press conference!? As you well know, I have a great deal of respect for your posts and as you equally... more
    • John Kelly confirmed that tRUMP actually said what he — Sia☺giah, Fri Oct 20 11:35pm
      • Trumps use of the phrase and Kelly's confirmation of it's intent and appropriateness >>>>> stupid/dishonest Trump's denial of the words. So much so, that it is a very good example of the danger of... more
        • Lost in NoisePikes, Sun Oct 22 12:39pm
          Will make it harder- makes it harder to be aware when Trump does something really bad. So far, lots of symptoms. He might be disease, and he might be a carrier. He may be a symptom too, seen in a... more
        • I'd EXPECT him to charge a bloody fortune for it and limit who can have it, an expectation based on past experience. However, if he didn't do those things, but instead gave it free to folks OR he... more
          • Sia and PikesRobert, Sun Oct 22 6:43pm
            See what I mean!? Smart people---Perspective---Hate lens...... And this from someone who shares your disdain for the SOB!
            • My point is so much noise is made about Trump, really bad, despicable things he does may go unnoticed. I described a particular and vocal Trump constituency- certain televangelists, and said Trump is ... more
    • Two pointsJeeves, Fri Oct 20 1:36pm
      " Trump in no way whatsoever purposefully said anything to disrespect/insult this woman. " I don't think anyone is claiming that Trump was purposefully disrespectfugetting s so uhat he didn't realize ... more
      • It's not the use of the phrase.Robert, Sat Oct 21 3:07pm
        Kelly very very clearly and emotionally explained that the use of the phrase was appropriate/respectful/complimentary. The media and many many others are getting all hung up on the phrase instead of... more
        • The flippin' out is that he LIED about it.Sia☺giah, Sun Oct 22 9:43am
          The phrase itself was very poorly executed and flubbed, no doubt about that. However, I think that most people are uncomfortable with expressing condolences, especially when they live in a fishbowl,... more
        • Absolutely spot on.PH👍🏿👍🏿EY, Sat Oct 21 6:21pm
          And we are losing very quickly. If the empire cannot hold its center it certainly will not hang onto its global parameters. We will be brushed off like so much baggage. I fear the desperation of the... more
        • Battles need to be pickedPikes, Sat Oct 21 5:41pm
          and this isn't one of them. You can't just throw $h!t at Trump all the time. Like profanity, it loses impact. I rarely cuss, and when I do, the OP knows I'm really mad. It is reserved so its impact... more
          • He's like a toddler in a mud puddle, dumping mud on his own head.
          • Absolutely!PH👀EY, Sat Oct 21 6:30pm
            I like a bit of salacious commentary. And a dash of gossip, too. A good scandal now and again. Human nature. But the nonstop bashing of the Presidency is weakening the whole. It is a major... more
            • his never ending peccadillos, then there wouldn't be a problem, now would there? People are NOT just sitting outside the white house watching his every move to twist things around to attack him. He... more
              • Yes and no my friend.Robert, Mon Oct 23 2:09pm
                No, people are definitely sitting around waiting to pounce on even the slightest mis-step---watched CNN/NBC/MSNBC lately!? Read the NYT lately!? Yes, unfortunately the dork does in fact supply a LOT... more
                • He doesn't just supply...wondering, Mon Oct 23 5:22pm
                  a lot of material, and it isn't just mis-steps. He very often STARTS the media frenzy by being the first to pounce on the "slightest" of nonsense and then blowing everything all out of proportion.... more
    • Kelly (nm)Robert, Fri Oct 20 12:55pm
      • But he should have to peel potatoes for a month for participating hand in hand with Sanders in blowing smoke to obscure the truth. I've spent enough years in smoke filled rooms to see thru their... more
        • I am uncomfortable withPH👁👁EY, Sat Oct 21 7:13pm
          military generals in the civilian White House. Perhaps he lies in other venues and deserves no credit at all. Certainly he must know 9-11 is a inside job. He can clear his conscience if he has one by ... more
          • I toowondering, Sun Oct 22 11:36pm
            am uncomfortable with military generals in a civilian White House. I think there is a rule about military generals not being allowed to run for President or civilian political office until after a... more