If you can't exercise it, do you actually have it? (nm)
Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:06pm

    • If you can't exercise it, do you actually have it? (nm) — Sprout, Mon Nov 13 1:06pm
      • Yes (nm)Merlin, Mon Nov 13 1:58pm
        • I don't think you do...Sprout, Mon Nov 13 2:09pm
          I would say that SOME people actually have a right to speak negatively of their government. Others do not. IMO it is a pleasant fantasy to create this concept of a 'human' right that every person in... more
            • Or having never had it in the first place...Sprout, Mon Nov 13 3:12pm
              Some folks are born in a place where they have rights. Others are not. Some travel from a place where they did not have rights to a place where they do. Others (though likely fewer) travel from... more
              • across and outside of political boundaries.
                • Certainly that is a claim made by thoseSprout, Tue Nov 14 9:22am
                  who HAVE those rights... I would suspect those who have never known those rights might not consider them so inherent and would instead consider them in fact determined BY political boundaries.
                  • INATE. Not inherent.PH👀EY, Tue Nov 14 10:46am
                    It's a whole package of nothing inherited but is "DNA" derived. We inherit our Constitutional guarantees. But the foundation for the impetus IS INATE. We hold these truths to be SELF-EVIDENT...
                    • who HAVE such rights... Those who have the MEANS to secure those rights for themselves... The foundation is the IDEA that the rights are innate. But the IDEA that they are innate does not mean that... more
                      • Granted, repression generates ideas about howPH😳😳EY, Tue Nov 14 1:04pm
                        to get that monkey off one's back. But the fact is inate is natural. A short list of synonyms: inborn, natural, intrinsic, instinctive, intuitive, UNLEARNED. The natural human being is already free... more
                        • What creates this "birthright"?Sprout, Tue Nov 14 1:54pm
                          What makes prey not prey? Having predator/prey relationships isn't man-made. What makes humans immune from being prey?
                          • 1. When one has been consumed.PH🙄🙄EY, Tue Nov 14 2:45pm
                            2. Okay, let's settle on evolution. 3. We are not immune. What creates this birthright? 4. By virtue of being.a spiritual creature.
                            • Ah... the appeal to the divine....Sprout, Tue Nov 14 4:27pm
                              What if I don't believe that you are a spiritual creature?
                              • There is something divine about being alive.PH🤓🤓EY, Tue Nov 14 11:09pm
                                I don't care if you do not accept my definition. I do see it is in the dictionary...duality of the human nature is said to be of our spiritual nature....the good, the bad, the ugly. Animals cannot... more
                                • Animals can't lie? That isn't true...Sprout, Wed Nov 15 8:23am
                                  I saw a dog run to the front door barking and growling AS IF there was an intruder so that his owner would go to the door and check, thus allowing the dog to run back into the living room and steal... more
                                  • are human constructs. The dog wasn't using deception, it was a learned trick. Though your story is curious, how many times did you see this happen to determine this was willful and practiced... more
                                    • Certainly it was a learned trick...Sprout, Fri Nov 17 2:26pm
                                      Dogs will frequently wait until you turn your back or leave the room to steal your food, or otherwise do something they know you don't want them to do. This one just managed to learn that he could... more
                  • Yes. Habit forming boundaries. Unnatural. (nm)PH👀EY, Tue Nov 14 10:14am
                    • Very natural I would say...Sprout, Tue Nov 14 10:16am
                      Human beings form social groupings naturally. Nations formed naturally as social groupings of GENERALLY similar folks socially and politically.
                      • By force of physical punishmentPH👀EY, Tue Nov 14 10:41am
                        Is not a natural boundary. such efforts to constrain and create false parameters upon the human psyche lead to degenerative mental disorders, beginning with neurosis. It's unnatural to be caged ether ... more
            • Denied by whom and what? (nm)PH💀💀EY, Mon Nov 13 2:35pm
      • Must you do the merry-go-round?PH😳😳EY, Mon Nov 13 1:10pm
        A gun barrel say no. The thug holding the trigger says "I am paid to be a thug, to shut you up." One still has the inalienable right. Of course it is if no value to be dead.